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The homepage for INTELLIGENT
DESIGN AND SCIENCE
includes Sections 1-3 and this
page has Section 4:
1. What is a theory of
intelligent design?
2. Intelligent Design as an
inclusive Big Tent
3. Implications for Apologetics & Natural Theology
4. Can intelligent design be authentically scientific?
Introductory Overview: Why are so
many so confident?
Can we find scientific support for (or against) design?
Why doesn't Intelligent Design publish
in science journals?
Can intelligent design be useful in science,
now or in the future?
Is rigid methodological naturalism useful
(or even essential)
in science?
In this page, Section 4 asks a general question — Can a theory of Design be authentically scientific? — in the five smaller questions you see above. A related question — Are theories of Design supported by the current scientific evidence? — is examined more closely in EVALUATIONS OF EVOLUTIONS. All of these questions (and others from Sections 1-3) are related, and most authors look at more than one aspect of design. But an author usually looks at some questions more closely than others, and thus the five sub-sections in this page.
an I.O.U. — Although summary-overviews (plus links to many valuable web-resources)
are already in this page, in June/July 2008 we'll look for additional
web-resources.
4. Can
intelligent design be authentically scientific?
An
Introductory Overview — Why are so many so confident?
To help us understand
the intensity of emotions during discussions of
design, we can
think about a model
of science proposed by Larry Laudan involving
mutual interactions
between goals, methods, and theories. Most people
want their own ideas — including their VIEWS OF SCIENCE (goals,
methods, theories) and
their VIEWS OF THE WORLD (used
for living in the world) — to
be logically consistent. This desire for consistency produces mutual
interactions within their framework of ideas (about science,
worldviews,...) with each influencing the others, producing adjustments
that improve the
overall logical harmony of their framework.
One result of this internal
self-consistency is that vigorous advocates for each view of origins
are confident that they
have The Answer, and those with other views seem so obviously wrong
(because their
ideas don't fit logically into our framework) that they
must be either deceiving themselves or trying to deceive
others.
Often the result is sharply
contrasting views about the foundations of rationality, about the kind of
arguments that
are persuasive, or even allowable. When two sides cannot even agree about the ground rules
of arguing, we shouldn't be
surprised when
they "talk past each other." They aren't trying to listen,
learn, and understand, since they're in a "debating mode" and are
just trying to
win.
In an effort to improve the situation,
this website tries to promote accurate understanding
and respectful
attitudes by helping readers get the best arguments from all sides, and
recognize that sometimes people on "the other side(s)" do have
some rational reasons
for their views.
One example
of a productive approach is The Battle of Beginnings: Why Neither Side Is
Winning the Creation-Evolution Debate. In this excellent book, Del
Ratzsch explains how "arguments that should not
persuade constitute an unfortunately high proportion of the popular artillery
on both sides." Because "the popular
caricatures that reign in this area... make confident choice appear supremely
simple" there is a tendency "for favorite
ideas — on both sides — to be credited within their respective
camps with a status they really do not deserve. Indeed, each side can
see the case as so utterly closed that the very existence of opponents generates
near bafflement." Instead, Ratzsch encourages us to "carefully
study, with an open mind, the evidence and logical counter-arguments presented
by opponents, in an attempt to accurately understand the logical support for
other positions and why someone might hold these positions, to see what things
look like from another point of view."
In Design
Theory and its Critics: Monologues Passing in the Night, Del Ratzsch
reviews an 800-page book edited by Robert Pennock, and provides an overview
of ideas — about Naturalism (Methodology and Beyond), Science & Substance,
Theology — and attitudes. (45 k) Since he is reviewing
a book that is strongly anti-ID, Ratzsch defends the rationality of ID. But
he (and you) could do a similar critique of pro-ID arguments, to defend
the rationality of some counter-arguments against ID.
Another example of trying
to accurately describe the strong and weak aspects of proposals from both
sides (and thus
avoid a "debating mentality") is Loren Haarsma asking "Is intelligent
design scientific?" and answering "yes and
no" — YES in some ways, NO in some ways, and MAYBE in others.
Why do most
people usually say "YES!"
or "NO!" but rarely "yes and no"?
• It's partly
due to the intellectual simplicity of an all-or-none position, with a desire
for internal self-consistency, for believing that all of the most rational
arguments
support
their own view.
• Another
reason for simplicity of positions — and intensity of emotions — is
the practical importance of the questions being debated, especially for their
potential applications in education:
Intelligent Design in Education?
Most
proponents of Intelligent Design want their view to be represented in education,
either
directly (by teaching ID as an alternative to evolution) or
indirectly (by including evidence both for and against evolution). And
most opponents of ID want to keep it out of public education. Two
strategies for excluding ID
are to criticize it philosophically and say "ID isn't even science," or
criticize it scientifically and say "ID is bad science," or
both. These arguments are then
used to claim that in the science classroom we should teach only science (but
ID isn't science) or only the best
science (but ID isn't the best).
For
example, George Gilchrist claims that ID has low scientific status (or no
status) because ID isn't published in science journals and
he concludes his page with a claim about educational policy: "Until
intelligent design theory can be shown to have any status as a scientific
theory of biological organization,
it has no place in a biology curriculum."
Intelligent Design is
a major theme in ORIGINS EDUCATION
IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS which looks at Freedom and Responsibility, Legality
and Constitutionality, Methods of Teaching, and Educational Policies, with
pro-ID and anti-ID arguments, including philosophical and scientific criticisms
of both Intelligent
Design and neo-Darwinian evolution, plus questions about religion. Later,
ID will also be a theme in pages for ORIGINS
EDUCATION in Christian settings (in church, private schools, and home
schools) and informal situations (in websites & newspapers, television & movies,...).
Can we find
scientific support for (and against) intelligent design?
By using the methods of science, can we detect the
results of intelligent design (and thus infer a process of design-action), in
principle and in practice?
This question requires four answers because,
as explained in Section 1 of INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCIENCE, there
are four types of intelligent design: • design of nature, • undetectable
design-directed guiding of natural process, and •• detectable
Design-directed action by a natural agent (•) or supernatural agent (•). In
Sections 1-3 and in this page, Intelligent Design (or ID or Design) — when
capitalized — refers to a claim for detectable Design-directed
action, while intelligent design (or design)
can refer to any of the
four types of design, depending on context.
Intelligent Design involves detectable Design-action,
which in principle we could potentially detect using the methods
of science, but in practice could we actually detect it? And
why do all scientists think we can infer Design-action by a natural agent,
but many don't think we could detect Design-action by a supernatural agent?
All of us confidently claim
to intuitively detect design when we observe a system (a house, newspaper,
radio, radio show, car,...) with parts that seem to have been carefully organized
to achieve a purpose. Although we all agree that some types of design
can be detected, there is disagreement about claims for Design in biology. Claims
for the scientific detectability of Intelligent Design in biology are generally defended in three ways:
• through an
appeal to the logic of mutual exclusion: because
a feature was produced by either non-Design or Design (when these
are properly defined), if we scientifically determine (using the standard
methods of science) that
it probably did not occur by
non-Design, then we should conclude (using simple either-or logic)
that it probably did occur by Design.
• in a related
method, Design theorists (led by William Dembski) claim that observable "signs
of Design" can be scientifically detected if analysis of information shows
there is significant specified complexity.
• an argument
by analogy claims that because we can use logic (based on
mutual exclusion) and/or analysis (of information) to scientifically
detect design-directed action by natural agents (Dn) in non-biological
systems, in a similar way we could detect the design-directed action
of a generic agent (either natural or supernatural) in biological
systems.
The proponents of Design are confident that their scientific analysis, based on mutual exclusion and complex specified information, is logical and should be persuasive. But proponents of non-Design vigorously disagree, claiming that these methods are not scientific and therefore should not be allowed in science, or that the results of evidence-based analyses are do not support claims for Intelligent Design.
There is also disagreement
about the standards for acceptance Is plausibility sufficient,
or is proof required?
For most questions
about the history of nature, currently the evidence for non-Design is strong
and a confident
conclusion is scientifically justifiable.
But for a few questions
the evidence-and-logic is less clear, and saying "we can't be sure
at this time" seems
justifiable. For these difficult questions, is a binary decision
(YES or NO) really necessary? Instead, it seems more rational
to assign differing levels of plausibility to claims that, for the origin
of a particular feature, Design-directed action "is almost certain" (we
could say "this bold claim is not justified") or "is sufficiently
plausible to be seriously considered as a possibility" (this modest claim
is more justifiable) or "is
more than 50% probable so it should be an inference to the best explanation" (we
can argue about the estimate of "more than 50%").
What
should we conclude if a scientific evaluation is not conclusive, and why? When
we're comparing theories of Design and non-Design, which has "the
burden of proof" (and how much proof is required) and which gets "the
benefit of the doubt" (and how much doubt is allowed)? Or should
we temporarily postpone a yes-or-no conclusion?
• Can
a theory of Intelligent Design be scientifically detected and evaluated? by
Craig Rusbult, is a summary (10 k for Section 7B) that explains
the logic of mutual exclusion, scientific
methods
for evaluating Design,
two possible effects of future science, thinking about plausibility
instead of proof, and combining scientific & philosophical evaluations. {more
generally, Sections 5A-7A and 7C-7D are also relevant for thinking
about ID, with an extra 45 k}
• [IOU: we'll find counter-arguments, either custom-written
specific responses or already-written general arguments]
• Miracles,
Intelligent Design, and God-of-the-Gaps by Jack Collins, explains the difference
between science-gaps (due to our inadequate knowledge) and nature-gaps (where
natural process couldn't produce a feature) and claims that
science
might be able to detect a nature-gap (29 k
+ 22k)
• In the first three pages of ARN's
FAQ — What is ID? How can we detect ID? How does ID apply to biology? — Mark
Hartwig contrasts the intuition-based Design argument of Paley with modern
methods (based on specified complexity) for detecting Design. (14 k
total)
• The second half of the TalkDesign-FAQ (beginning
with "What are the 'scientific' arguments used to support Intelligent
Design?", 15 k) explains why scientific reasoning does not support
the claims made by ID. Jay Richards disagrees, and in his overview
of what
ID is and isn't he explains why "the more
scientifically sophisticated we get, the stronger the argument for intelligent
design." (10 k)
• [IOU: we'll find Dembski description of specified
complexity,... (some possibilities are at end of page) and counter-arguments
(from TalkOrigins
or TalkDesign?)
• then cite specific areas (for pro-and-con) in bio-e, chem-e, design of nature
a reminder from the introduction: In every subsection, above and below, those who are enthusiastically pro-ID or anti-ID both use adjustments within their framework of ideas (about worldviews, goals, methods, theories,...) to generate a bold confidence that they have The Answer which leads to "sharply contrasting views about the foundations of rationality, about the kind of arguments that are considered logical and persuasive, or even rational and allowable."
Why doesn't Intelligent Design publish
in science journals?
Do advocates
of Design publish in peer-reviewed
science journals? And if
not, why not?
• The basis for this argument against ID-in-Science
is outlined in The
Elusive Scientific Basis of Intelligent Design by George Gilchrist: "Because
professional scientists must publish their work to retain their jobs and
to obtain funding, the relative status of intelligent design theory and evolutionary
theory can be assessed by comparing their frequency of usage in the professional
scientific literature. ... Is intelligent design theory actually
used by scientists?" He looks at the literature and says
NO, "if
any science supporting these views has been done, it is quite well hidden." And
he concludes his page with an application for education.
• Some alternative explanations are in an FAQ
from IDEA-Center, Why
isn't intelligent design found published in peer-reviewed science journals? (four
short answers in 2 k, four long answers, and a conclusion quoting William
Dembski, total is 103 k)
EXPELLED (the movie!) claims to show strong
anti-ID pressure in the community of scientists.
• The ASA Homepage is
now featuring this controversial movie, with links to a wide range of views
from prominent organizations (NCSE, AAAS, Discovery Institute, Reasons to Believe)
plus discussions on the ASA-list, comments from the Executive Director of ASA
(Randy Isaac, who says "Ben Stein stressed simplicity
and actively avoided complexity [which is the main theme of expert science/religion
scholars like John Hedley
Brooke] in the movie... a veneer
of superficial truth masked a wealth of complexity that was ignored presumably
to avoid confusing the audience"),
a comprehensive essay by Jeff Schloss (The EXPELLED Controversy: Overcoming
or Raising Walls of Division?), and responses from ASA members.
• Academic
Freedom and Evolution by Casey
Luskin (5 k)
• IOU — more from each view will be here later, by August
2008
• Paradigm Shifts in Geology (Geosynclinal Theory & Plate Tectonics) and Biology (Darwinism & Intelligent Design) by John Wiester, asks if these situations — in the history of geology and in current biology — are analogous. (10 k + 2k)
• In the late 1990s, Michael Behe (author of Darwin's Black Box:
The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution, published in 1996) submitted
papers to science journals, but his papers were always rejected. In
2000, he documented his experiences in Correspondence
with Science Journals: Response to Critics Concerning Peer-Review. (21 k)
• Why
is Intelligent Design
not published in science journals? by Craig Rusbult, is a summary (with commentary)
of
Behe's
"correspondence" page. (16 k)
• IOU — responses
to this will be found or will be written by others
• What happened when
the editor of a science journal (Richard Sternberg) published a pro-ID paper
by Stephen Meyer? There was lots of excitement, as described in Intelligent
Design and Academic Freedom by Barbara Bradley Hagerty for National
Public Radio (4 k)
• Researcher
claims bias by Smithsonian by Joyce
Howard Price for Washington Times (4 k)
• Deja
vu All Over Again by Chris Mooney, who compares two papers (in climate
science & evolutionary biology) and says "proponents
of a fringe... scientific viewpoint seek added credibility" but
haven't earned it. (10 k)
• Science's
New Heresy Trial: A Smithsonian-backed editor is defrocked by the priesthood
of science for publishing an article on Intelligent Design, by Gene Edward
Veith. (5 k)
• The
HomePage of
Richard Sternberg with the journal-editor's summaries (6 k) of the publication
and results.
• ID
Paper Continues to Attract Scrutiny by the National Center for Science
Education, summarizes (in 7 k) four
articles — from Nature, Chronicle of Higher Education, Science, and
by Chris Mooney — and
links to
its own pages and The
"Meyer 2004" Medley (with links and blog-responses)
from Panda's Thumb, plus a two-part
response (11 k & 38 k) by Discovery Institute, home base
of the author, Stephen Meyer.
And more generally (beyond just ID in journals) eventually we'll have a separate links-page devoted to "evaluations in science" because this is an important topic that deserves to be examined more carefully, in more depth and breadth. Most scientists are interested in the complex factors affecting acceptance or rejection of papers (and grants), and many scholars — especially those who study science and scientists from the perspectives of history, philosophy, sociology, and psychology — are interested in the effects of the cultural-personal factors that operate in a complex social context involving individuals, the scientific community, and society as a whole.
Can Intelligent
Design be useful in science?
When we ask "Can ID be
useful in science?" this is similar to asking "Does ID belong
in science?", and this section is an overview of rational arguments
for including Intelligent Design in science, and rational arguments
for excluding it. In
other sections the ideas — about scientific methods, publishing in
journals, and methodological naturalism — are more specific and focused,
but there is overlap, and in all sections most authors discuss a variety
of
questions
about Design in science. Here are some of the many questions we're
exploring:
Is a search for truth (about
nature
and its history)
an important goal of science? Or should we focus on practical usefulness in
scientific research, in stimulating productive experiments and theoretical
analysis? What
is the relative importance of
a theory's plausibility (whether
it seems likely to be true) and its utility (for
stimulating scientific research)? What are the goals of science,
and
what methods & theories will help us
achieve these goals? And what are the mutual interactions
between goals,
methods, and theories?
What are the arguments for and
against
including Intelligent Design
in science? Which arguments, both for and against, do you
think are
the best and most persuasive?
In all parts of DESIGN
IN SCIENCE,
in the first page (Big Tent,...) and throughout this page, you'll
see "contrasting views... about the kind of arguments
that
are considered logical and persuasive, or even rational
and allowable." For example, when asking "Can
we
find scientific support for (or against) Intelligent Design?" we
find
vigorous
disagreement about two central questions: If, based on our evaluation of
current
evidence, it seems that
a
feature probably was not produced by non-Design (by undirected natural
process),
is
it
logical
to
conclude that this feature probably was the result of Design, or
is this an illogical "GOD OF THE GAPS"
argument
based
on our temporary ignorance? What should we conclude when a scientific evaluation,
using evidence and logic, is not
conclusive?
Other questions are more general: In
the title of Section 4, what
does "authentically
scientific" mean? How
should
we
define
science and non-science? (and is this demarcation useful?) Is rigid
methodological
naturalism necessary
for science? What
are
the
limits
for
what
can
claim
to
be
science,
and for what science can claim
to explain? If a Design theory does not try to explain the details of Design
(the how, why, and who), is this a serious weakness or a rational recognition
of limits? Design theories make claims about the history of nature, but
(due to the limitations of historical data) is historical science inherently
unscientific? or is it scientific yet limited? in what ways? What
are
the
similarities
and differences between a mechanistic theory and agency
theory? Why are some Design theories accepted
as being authentically scientific,
while others are controversial?
• Whether
ID is Science isn't Semantics by Alvin Plantinga, who says that Judge Jones "gave
two arguments for his conclusion that ID is not science; both are unsound." (12 k)
• an IOU — This section
needs resources, including counter-arguments about the judicial decision of Judge
Jones in the Dover Trial;
many
other
candidates
are
available,
but
selections
have
not
yet been made.
• Design:
What Scientific Difference Could It Make? by Del Ratzsch (41 k+ 24k)
ID-based research programs?
• Can
Intelligent Design Become Respectable? by Kelly Smith, a critic of ID (18 k)
• Gauging
Intelligent Design's Success by William Dembski (2003), the first three sections — A
Method for Detecting Design, Detecting Design in Biology, The Argument-from-Ignorance
Objection — cover the basics of Design theory, and the fourth section, Potential
Impact of Intelligent Design, is most relevant for thinking about "utility
in science."
• dialogue between Robin Collins and Paul Gross: Collins "proposes a mediating position" in which ID is not a scientific theory because details of its explanation "cannot be filled in using other branches of science," but ID may be scientifically useful "as a hypothesis that could potentially influence the practice of science." Gross thinks this view "is no mediation; it just attempts by various means to reinforce a central claim of the ID movement, that mainstream science unfairly and unnecessarily excludes ID from the study of life’s history,... [but] in light of the massive evidence, the exclusion is both fair and necessary." (Collins - Gross - Collins - 15 k total) / also, Collins has a longer analysis of ID (50 k) and so does Gross (25 k)
• dialogue in early 2001: Is Intelligent Design testable? by William Dembski (January 24), The Big Tent and the Camel's Nose by Eugenie Scott (February 12), Teaching Intelligent Design: What Happened When? by William Dembski (February 27) (27 k, 11 k, 16 k) / Dembski's first paper, responding to a lecture by Scott (that doesn't seem to be available on the web), was a topic for discussion on the ASA email list so Jack Haas made a hybrid page with list-comments (31 k) interjected at appropriate places in Dembski's paper. [where to use this? theory structure? big tent for Feb 12 & 27?]
• Flock of Dodos — is a documentary (2006) about the advocates
and critics of Intelligent Design:
• Wake
Up, Dodos (making light of a dry, but important topic) by Anthony Dick,
is a moderately anti-ID review for National Review (9 k) [IOU:
there will be more reviews & essays about Dodos]
• OVERVIEW (mainly science, + more) by Allen Orr for New Yorker (May 2005), Devolution: Why intelligent design isn't (28 k) [where to use? as overview in id-homepage? here? probably in bioE-page] and response by William Dembski (15 k)
| The rest of this page — except "Four Answers" in the appendix — is UNDER CONSTRUCTION. (and the whole page needs more links to web-resources) |
Is methodological naturalism useful
in science?
Should a scientist
use methodological naturalism by assuming
(and concluding) that everything in history has occurred by natural process? Is flexible methodological
naturalism — beginning
an investigation by assuming "it
happened by natural process" but treating this as an assumption
to be tested rather than a conclusion to be accepted — an option
for a scientist?
In
our search for truth about the history of nature, what are the advantages
and disadvantages
of
methodological
naturalism (MN), in what ways can it be it useful and non-useful? Is
MN violated by a basic theory of Intelligent Design that does not explicitly
propose
supernatural
action, but
does allow
it
and may imply it? Is MN an essential
part of scientific method and science? Is it acceptable, scientifically
and theologically, for Christians?
Confusion is caused by
the common use of "naturalism" with two meanings: in
a narrow meaning, naturalism is
a claim — which is compatible with Christian theism — that "only
natural process occurred" for a particular event, process, or historical
period; in a broad meaning, NATURALISM (or naturism,
materialism, matterism)
is a claim — which is not compatible with Christian theism — that "only
nature exists." What are the similarities and differences between
methodological naturalism and
atheistic philosophical NATURALISM? What
are the relationships between them, and is there a tendency for either to
cause the other?
• Two meanings of naturalism — only
natural process, and only nature exists — and how we can
minimize the confusion caused by naturalism
and NATURALISM (two meanings for one word) by Craig Rusbult. (5 k
+ 6k)
• Howard Van Till explains why he "has
never approvingly employed the term methodological
naturalism in his writing" due to its implied connections
with philosophical NATURALISM. (9 k + 5k)
• Keith Miller explains how Understanding
the Nature of Science (thus reducing misconceptions about methodological
naturalism and more) can help improve public understandings of evolution
and design. (2k
abstract, 3k powerpoint)
• Loren Haarsma explains why the term "methodological
NATURALISM" is inaccurate: Where
is God in science? Christianity as a Foundation for Science (Part 2). (25 k
+ 4k) He looks at methodological naturalism and asks "must
science deny miracles?" (no, but...) in Science,
Miracles, and Methodological Naturalism. (21 k)
• Craig Rusbult summarizes theological/philosophical
implications & scientific utility of rigid methodological
naturalism (13 k for Sections 7C-7D)
• Jeff Mino "looks briefly at the common
arguments used against ID, including arguments from methodological naturalism,
falsifiability, productivity, and religious fundamentalism... [and] explains
why ID
theory could be beneficial to our society today and suggests a need for
a methodology of studying nature that exists alongside traditional science
yet is not based on the precept of MN," in Science
or Sience. (37 k + 3k)
• Barbara Forrest Clarifies
the Connection between Methodological Naturalism and Philosophical Naturalism (61 k
+ 13k) —
she is an atheist (*) and
is a prominent critic of ID; she is especially critical of ID's cultural
and political goals as outlined in her book, Creationism's Trojan
Horse: The Wedge of Intelligent Design. {* but atheism
is not the only reason to oppose ID, and some devout Christians are also
critics of ID}
• Alvin Plantinga asks a question — Methodological
Naturalism? — and analyzes arguments (weak and stronger) for
it. (55 k + 7k)
fairly soon (by August 2008)
we'll find pages from:
•
anti-ID pages claiming that methodological naturalism
is necessary for science, so ID isn't science ==
• ID advocates (Phil Johnson,...) who describe
mutually relationships (influencing? causative?) between methodological
naturalism and philosophical NATURALISM. ==
• Madden & Discher
and Van Till, 3-part
dialogue (is second dialogue-series on this page)
Four
Answers A particular feature could have been produced by Ni) Natural
process that was initially designed (before
the beginning of history) so it would have the properties needed to
produce the feature, and/or during history by Ns) Natural
process with design-directed supernatural
guidance, or Ds) Detectable
design-directed action by a supernatural
agent or Dn) Detectable
design-directed action by a natural
agent, or Nu) Natural
process that was undesigned. In principle, science can (by definition) detect detectable
Design-action. In practice, inference
to Design usually depends on the logic of mutual
exclusion because a feature was produced by
either non-Design (by undirected
natural process in Nu, Ni, Ns, or Ni-and-Ns) or Design (Ds
or Dn) when these terms are carefully defined, as above. Therefore, when
the scientific status of non-Design decreases, the status of Design
increases,
and
vice versa; the status of Design varies with the status
of non-Design (which is empirically responsive and testable in conventional
science) so Design
is empirically
responsive and is testable. pages by William Dembski (these, and others,
will be evaluated in June-and-July 2008 and will be used in various
sections) — all of the pages below, and more, are available on his
website, www.designinference.com
also [things to check during June/July 2008], • John Oakes, The
Intelligent Design Debate (2005) — about design of nature (is there evidence for it?) and ID
in schools (should we teach it?) |
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