RE: [asa] baby-making (was: Two questions... (bottlenecking))

From: Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
Date: Tue Feb 17 2009 - 12:22:06 EST

I think the obvious answer is that God does not literally "knit us together" in our mother's womb, because if He did, it meant He was making retarded and other such (junk) babies. Yes- junk, because some of it is not viable and dies in the womb or shortly thereafter.

Instead, God invented the evolutionary process to create physical beings- which is brilliant because there's no better way of doing it (other than creation by fiat which would create an unrealistic world, because no one would be able to trust their senses if things were made by fiat).

...Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Dick Fischer
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:27 PM
To: 'David Clounch'
Cc: ASA
Subject: RE: [asa] Two questions... (bottlenecking)

Hi David:

Certainly I don't have any good answers. I think God cares more for hearts

that are perfect toward Him than He seems to about physical death and

suffering which is simply part of life.

Dick Fischer, GPA president

Genesis Proclaimed Association

"Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"

www.genesisproclaimed.org

-----Original Message-----

From: David Clounch [mailto:david.clounch@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:13 PM

To: Dick Fischer

Cc: ASA

Subject: Re: [asa] Two questions... (bottlenecking)

Dick,

Its a very good question. Does God allow us to be born even though He

knows something horrible will affect our lives and make us miserable.

Its the "problem of pain" all over again.

Did God cause all this pain? If so, is He still good? Seems to me

this question is something we all have to deal with.

If God allows pain is He good. If by allowing it He causes it, is He

still good? Terrible questions, aren't they?

-Dave

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>

wrote:

> I hope he didn't have Down's Syndrome.

>

> Dick Fischer, GPA president

> Genesis Proclaimed Association

> "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"

> www.genesisproclaimed.org

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On

> Behalf Of David Clounch

> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:50 AM

> To: asa@calvin.edu

> Subject: Re: [asa] Two questions... (bottlenecking)

>

> Yesterday a friend was buried. On the card from his service was Psalms

> 139:13-16.

>

> verse 16 says,

>

> " Your eyes have seen my unformed substance;

> And in Your book were all written

> The days that were ordained for me,

> When as yet there was not one of them. " NASV

>

> This Psalm raises an interesting idea. God knew all the details and

> design of the man's life long before he was born. And ordained

> (pre-planned) his days and fate.

>

> Sounds like design to me.

>

> And I cant see where there is any way any series of natural processes

> can produce any such pre-planned creature or detailed days of his

> life. Not without massive tinkering and interference with the flow of

> natural processes.

>

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