Re: [asa] 7 Words You Can't Say in Church WAS ORIGINS: pseudogenes are overwhelming evidence for evolution...?

At 06:10 AM 11/4/2007, John Walley wrote:

>As a more humorous aside to this very serious issue of the truth not
>being allowed in most of the evangelical church, a friend of mine
>who is also a recent TE convert and I came up with this to hopefully
>help break the ice and get people to start thinking about this.
>
>NASA scientist and former RTB Apologist Dr. Mark Whorton, author of
>"Peril in Paradise" will be presenting to the RTB Atlanta Chapter
>Christmas Party later this month on "Peril in the Pew: The Evolution
>of an Evolving Creationist" and this came out of our preparation for
>that. Please let me know what you think. J
>
>7 Words you can't say in Church:
>
>1. Big Bang
>2. Old Earth
>3. Death before the Fall
>4. Allegorical Genesis
>5. Common Descent
>6. Darwin
>
>annnnd
>
>7. S ex ~ John

@ What I think is humorous is the fact that there are 14 words, not 7. :)

Nevertheless, I take it that you two are suggesting that the people
you are talking about are in denial but that it's getting closer and
closer to the point where "they can no longer avoid looking in the
mirror to see what their delusions have wrought. And based on their
behavior, they apparently know that "the only way to avoid being
submerged by all this reality is to embrace the denial ever more
tightly and descend deeper into delusion and paranoia. It is either
that, or courageously face the truth; re-evaluate their premises and
come to grips with the unpleasant reality they have been desperately
trying to avoid. They have been willing to compromise the values they
give lip service to in order to keep their precious religion intact.

"The Wonderful World of Denial allows someone to believe something is
true, when it is obvious to everyone else it is false. It permits
someone to pretend they are feeling "love" or other altruistic
emotions when they are actually
<http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/11/profiles-in-intellectual-and-moral.html>behaving
in a hateful manner; it hides the truth by using big words and grand
concepts to prevent an individual from feeling unacceptable feelings
(some have referred to
"<http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2004/08/psychiatry-101-defense-mechanisms.html>intellectualizion"
(<http://www.geocities.com/martinkramerorg/2005_11_21.htm>example)--which
is a defense mechanism related to denial-- as "denial gone to college").

Denial can make otherwise intelligent individuals/groups/nations
behave in a stupid or clueless manner, because they are too
threatened by the truth and are unable to process what is perfectly
apparent to everyone. People who live in this Wonderful World go
through their daily lives secure in the knowledge that their
self-image is protected against any information, feelings, or
awareness that might make them have to change their view of the
world. Nothing--and I mean NOTHING--not facts, not observable
behavior; not the use of reason or logic; or their own senses will
make an individual in denial reevaluate that world view.
<http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/alt/04/creed.html>All events
will simply be reinterpreted to fit into the belief system of that
world--no matter how
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3196234.stm>ridiculous, how
<http://www.truthandduty.com/>distorted, or how
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20051124/bs_prweb/prweb314382_1>psychotic
that reinterpretation appears to others.
<http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/11/pandemic.html>Consistency,
common sense, reality, and objective truth are unimportant and are
easily discarded--as long as the world view remains intact." ~
DrSanity (paraphrased) http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/11/in-denial.html

Is that about right?

I'll bet you two even think that if it wasn't so sad, you'd have to
laugh at how easily people can "suffer from the kind of group-think
that develops in cloistered cultures".

An ASAer talked about those sorts of mentalities, himself, a number
of years ago:

QUOTE: "..there are scientists...
[....]" http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200709/0311.html

K. Emmanuel of MIT bolstered that sentiment just a couple of months ago:

QUOTE: "The evolution of the scientific debate about anthropogenic
climate change illustrates both the value of skepticism and the
pitfalls of partisanship.".. Scientists ... reputation for
impartiality is severely compromised by the shocking lack of p
olitical diversity among American academics, who suffer from the kind
of group-think that develops in cloistered cultures. Until this
profound and well documented intellectual homogeneity changes
, scientists will be suspected of constituting a
leftistthink-tank." "On the left, an argument emerged urging fellow
scientists to deliberately exaggerate their findings so as to
galvanize an apathetic public..." ~ K. Emmanuel - MIT

So in light of the foregoing, we may see that because people are in
denial, there is a very serious issue of the truth not being allowed
in the LeftistThink-Tanks, and I came up with this to hopefully help
break the ice and get intellectually honest people to start thinking
about this.

I have a talk I'll be presenting soon entitled, "Peril in the
Academies": The Evolution of an EvolvingLeftist" and as a humorous
aside, this came out of my preparation for that talk.

8 things you can't say in the LeftistThink-Tank:

1. A man does not behave like an hysterical woman.
http://tinyurl.com/2wfafk

2. An easily offended person is also a passive-aggressive controlling
person--hardly a victim, but an aggressor.
http://tinyurl.com/2wfafk

3. Many people have said that the earth is facing a crisis requiring
urgent action. This statement has nothing to do with science.
http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200709/0289.html

4. Consensus is largely a propaganda claim designed to relieve
ordinary people of the need to understand the issue.
http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200709/0289.html

5. In the film, "AIT", science is used in the hands of a talented p
olitician and communicator, to make a p olitical statement and to
support a p olitical programme. There is no [valid reason] ... to
support the more extreme views of Alg
ore. http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200710/0156.html

6. The C onstitution was written to be "the supreme Law of the Land."
a constant, unchanging document written for the ages.
http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200708/0392.html

7. L eftists read M arx. C onservatives understand him.
http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200708/0422.html

annnnd

8. Since p olitics is their religion, the left p oliticizes
everything, including se x.
http://tinyurl.com/2wfafk

~ Janice [insert smiley face]

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Received on Sun Nov 4 13:43:34 2007