Re: Religious Beliefs that *Require* the Falsehood of Scientific Theories

From: Chris Cogan (ccogan@telepath.com)
Date: Sun Dec 10 2000 - 11:53:20 EST

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    At 12:34 PM 12/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:

    >Bill wald wrote:
    > >I don't think teleology and RM&NS are mutually exclusive if we
    > >compartmentalize - do science in the lab and do theology in church. The
    > >problem is that since Copenhagan compartmentalization doesn't seem to
    > >work. it seems like lab science - Newtonian physics - is only a
    > >pragmatic sub-set of rules that works within a human-scaled universe -
    > >not very big or very small.
    >
    > >Is the universe sort of like the "Amber" science fiction books? A
    > >physical world surrounded by a spiritual/magical universe?

    Bertvan
    >Hi Bill,
    >At least you have a mind capable of contemplating possibilities beyond
    >materiaism.

    Chris
    We *all* do. Some of us just don't think they are *real*.

    However, strictly speaking, Wald's suggestion is *not* possible (not even
    in a merely logical sense).

    *But*, it might be the case that our physical universe is "surrounded" in
    some sense with a larger universe that has superficial characteristics of a
    spiritual/magical universe. "Surrounding" (or deeper than) that universe,
    however, there would have to be, ultimately, a non-spiritual basis (though
    it need not be "physical" in any ordinary sense, just as our own universe's
    "physics" is becoming less oriented toward what we call "matter" and more
    toward "strings" and "waves" and such, of which matter may be only one
    expression.



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