DNAunion: Okay, so I could not find every post I have ever read at every
evolution/creation/ID site I have ever visited. Was I really expected to?
But since I could find posts that back up my EXACT claim, I will retract it
and replace it with my GENERAL FORM of the claim.
Over the course of several years, I have personally read many posts on the
internet, at various sites, in which an "evolutionist", while responding to a
Creationist/IDist argument, relies only on open-system thermodynamics to
"refute" his opponent. In these particular exchanges, the Creationist/IDist
had argued that some biological process that involved large increases in
order and complexity (such as macroevolution or the evolution of the first
cell) could not occur by purely-natural, undirected processes because that
would go against the tendency imposed by the 2nd law - to which the
"evolutionst" counters along the lines of, "but life and/or the Earth are
open-systems, so entropy can decrease". This reliance on only open-system
thermodynamics is all that is offered by the "evolutionist" in the many cases
I am discussing - no mention is made of the biological molecular machines
that are also required, and more importantly, the origin of those biological
molecules machines is never addressed. And should
the Creationist/IDist bring up problems of the origin of said molecular
machines, the "Evolutionist" falls back to the position that they themselves
are not part of thermodynamics: moving the goal posts.
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