RE: Oppressive YEC

From: Glenn Morton (glenn.morton@btinternet.com)
Date: Sun Apr 28 2002 - 18:37:01 EDT

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    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Guy Blanchet [mailto:guyblanchet@sympatico.ca]
    >Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 2:55 AM
    >To: Glenn Morton
    >Cc: asa@calvin.edu
    >Subject: Re: Oppressive YEC
    >
    >
    >> Glenn,
    >
    >> [....] No, Guy, all roads lead to the conclusion of a young-earth. [...]
    >
    >> see http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/dmd.htm
    >> for lots of creation/evolution information
    >> anthropology/geology/paleontology/theology\
    >> personal stories of struggle
    >
    >Sorry for deleting your text. But I did leave one sentence
    >appearing near the end
    >just to prove that I read it all. (By the way I think there in a
    >typo in that
    >sentence.)

    OOPS, you are correct. All roads lead to the conclusion of an OLD-earth and
    an OLD universe. Goes to show that I don't do a good job of proofreading.

    >
    >I must say that I'm quite impressed with all of the energy put into this by
    >experts around the world. However, I think our definitions of
    >verification don't
    >match. To verify the old earth theory one would be required to
    >build a time
    >machine and go backward in time to actually check out what in fact
    >occured. I can
    >picture you at the controls of this machine. Let me see. You
    >would first dial in
    >year 8000 BC and then proceed backwards from there second by
    >second.....very
    >carefully....just in case....

    It is very interesting that you set a standard for proof that will never
    allow for any verification. By your standard, you can't verify a
    young-earth either. WHich I suppose is your methodology so that you can
    claim that the two views are equivalent in epistemologic value.

    But by your standard we should never convict anyone of murder, for murder
    happened in the past and we surely should require a time machine to ensure
    that we get the right guy before locking him away for life. Don't you agree
    that we should never convict a murderer because we lack your standard of
    verification? I expect that you will lead a protest movement to free all
    criminal suspects from their jail cells because we can never verify that
    they did the deed. What will you call your movement, which you should be
    ethically required to found?

    The problem is that you didn't discuss any of the evidence presented. You
    ignored it as if it had never been said (with the exception of my typo). Why
    is it that young-earthers never seem to respond to data but merely clip it
    from their replies and from their memories? Do you know why, Guy?

    glenn

    see http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/dmd.htm
    for lots of creation/evolution information
    anthropology/geology/paleontology/theology\
    personal stories of struggle
    >
    >
    >Regards
    >



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