Vintage Glenn this, strong argument with a benevolent smile. The right way
to argue.
Maybwe the miserable scottish climate is doing you good.
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Morton" <glenn.morton@btinternet.com>
To: "Asa@Calvin. Edu" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:21 AM
Subject: RE: Bears and Stuff
> Hi Dick, you win. You have successfully shown how apologists ignore and
> avoid discussing data which might force a change in their views. I will
> make a couple of comments and let you have the last word after that.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
> >Behalf Of Dick Fischer
> >Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:29 AM
> [non-responsive soliloquy on off-topic stuff deliged.
> >
> >And I might suggest taking some memory pills. The reason we are
discussing
> >bears is because of animal sacrifice.
> >
> >"We," as in you and me, are not discussing bears.
>
> I noticed, Dick. I present evidence that shows animal sacrifice occurred
> prior to your precious 7000 years and you ably ignore it by writing on
> Havilah.
> [snip]
>
>
> >Absolutely! The world was populated in the millions 7,000 years ago.
But
> >my point has been that Adam is historical, Adam appeared long after the
> >human race got its start, Adam has a place we can identify. And
> >sacrificing
> >farm-type animals as a covering for sin, or an offering to God (or gods),
> >seems to have commenced in the same region at the same time.
>
> So is it your position that the important thing in determining
spirituality
> is that it is FARM ANIMALS that are sacrificed and the beliefs of the
> individual about an afterlife, sin etc are not important in determining
> sprituality at all? That is the only reason I can see for you to hold
that
> position. I guess a misbehaving sheep dog who sacrifices one of his sheep
> in his charge and then eats it (as humans do with sacrificed sheep) is
> displaying the image of God. Go Fido!
>
> >If the data that I report is subject to change with future discovery,
then
> >so is yours.
> >
> >Agreed.
>
> Then doesn't it seem silly for you to have claimed that one shouldn't
accept
> my data because it might be changed by future discovery? Let's deal with
> future discovery when it happens.
>
> >
> >
> >There is more to the world than Mesopotamia, Dick. Lift your head and
look
> >around. It is a big, wide world out there full of activities which didn't
> >take place in Mesopotamia.
> >
> >Again, agreed.
>
> But then you spend lots of time ignoring everything that might impinge on
> your Mesopotamian views. Effectively you are saying don't confuse me with
> any fact that doesn't support my viewpoint. I think that is what Henry
> Morris does as effectively as you. Indeed it is what is morally wrong
about
> Christian apologetics.
>
> You got the last word. I won't waste more time on this thread.
>
>
> glenn
>
> see http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/dmd.htm
> for lots of creation/evolution information
> anthropology/geology/paleontology/theology\
> personal stories of struggle
>
> >
>
>
>
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