Jan de Koning wrote:
>
> At 06:06 PM 11/03/02 -0500, Walter Hicks wrote:
> >Michael Roberts wrote:
> > >
> > > What is current naturalist science?
> >
> >The material that is presented on this listserve about evolution or what
> >may be found on origins.org.
>
> Here we go again. Talking in generalities makes answering impossible.
Good Grief! Try this, Jan
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2001/PSCF3-01Morton.html#Evolution\\\\
Are you trying to play games with me? These views have REPEATEDLY been
expressed by others since I joined this listserve a couple of months
ago.
>
> >To which I say "poppycock". You can make anything "infallible" if you
> >just reinterpret the Bible every time that it does not hold water -- and
> >call it theology. Reality is that the Bible is inspired writing but it
> >does, in fact, have errors within it. Where does the Bible itself claim
> >to be infallible?
> >
> >
> >Walt
>
> I am sorry, but this way of talking does not get us anywhere. You
> apparently do not know what theology is, nor do you appear to know what
> science is. That makes talking almost impossible. I don't deny that
> errors came into the translations, and the copying of the Bible, but the
> number of these "errors" are small.
>
> Jan de K.
Forgive me, Jan! My dictionary defines theology as the study of
religion. I believed that -- how stupid I am ;-) And they passed out
science degrees to any old fool who studied science back in my college
days. My degrees are surely not worth the scrolls upon which they were
conveyed ;(
Belittling me does not prove your points at all. Unlike the RC Pope, the
Bible does NOT declare itself to be infallible. Those "infallibly"
statements are made by historical newcomers in the last few centuries
--- followed up by recent people like you. Pardon me for not accepting
neither their viewpoint NOR your proclamation. I DO have a lot of
company and they have expressed themselves in this past month on this
listserve. You certainly have seen them yourself--- have you not?!!!
The "errors" in the Bible are fairly major in my view. That is not to
subtract from its value -- but rather to add to its value on a more
personal (and important!!) plane.
To me the value of the Bible is to introduce a person to a personal
relationship with with Jesus Christ --- one in which a person comes to
know the Living God on a personal basis. Infallibility has nothing to
with that and the NT Bible did not even exist when Jesus lit the Flame.
The Flame still exists and so-called Biblical "infallibility" has
NOTHING to do with it!! (IMHO)
But I may be wrong as usual.
Walt
-- =================================== Walt Hicks <wallyshoes@mindspring.com> In any consistent theory, there must exist true but not provable statements. (Godel's Theorem)You can only find the truth with logic If you have already found the truth without it. (G.K. Chesterton) ===================================
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