Re: Possible impact of ID

From: Moorad Alexanian (alexanian@uncwil.edu)
Date: Wed Mar 22 2000 - 08:54:41 EST

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    The issues raised by ID can be most profitable to those who insist that all
    is matter/energy. To the theist, ID is a possible venue to integrate
    science and religion. The way God interacts with the physical is a difficult
    problem. Humans will never figure it out. What makes sense to someone may be
    nonsense to another. I do not believe in deism and some of what I read can
    easily qualify as such. History is not preprogrammed by God. I am remind of
    the movie "Casablanca" where the ending was written as the movie was being
    done. I am sure God is more like that than having a script exactly written
    from beginning to end, there must be room for human free will.

    Moorad

    -----Original Message-----
    From: glenn morton <mortongr@flash.net>
    To: Moorad Alexanian <alexanian@uncwil.edu>; James Mahaffy
    <mahaffy@mtcnet.net>; asa@calvin.edu <asa@calvin.edu>
    Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 6:54 PM
    Subject: Re: Possible impact of ID

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    >----- Original Message -----
    >From: "Moorad Alexanian" <alexanian@uncwil.edu>
    >To: "glenn morton" <mortongr@flash.net>; "James Mahaffy"
    ><mahaffy@mtcnet.net>; <asa@calvin.edu>
    >Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:56 PM
    >Subject: Re: Possible impact of ID
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    >
    >> The best way to understand something is to know what it is and what it is
    >> not. ID states that the whole thing did not come without the aid of a
    BIG
    >> BRAIN! It is the role of science to incorporate that knowledge into their
    >> tool box. At least that would avoid a lot of nonsense being said about
    how
    >> the universe and man came into being. That is already an important
    >> contribution, even if it were to be the sole contribution
    >
    >So? Most Christians in science knew this without the aid of the ID movement
    >and knew it before the ID movement was ever formed. I simply don't see
    that
    >they have made a contribution here. And, their evidence for design is not
    >the only place God can act as a designer. What they are doing is saying
    that
    >if evolution occurred, God couldn't have designed the biological entities.
    >That simply isn't true. God could have designed the molecular system such
    >that it would give rise to the biological entities. I have suggested that
    >and before me, Howard Van Till has suggested it. God designing a system
    >which would evolve from nothing would also be design but the ID folk would
    >reject that as design. So, what they are doing is limiting God to designing
    >biological entities in ways that they approve. I don't think God needs or
    >wants
    >their approval.
    >
    >



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