Re: [asa] Lincoln and Darwin

George's reply was a lot more nuanced than one I'd have made!

jb

On 2/13/09, gmurphy10@neo.rr.com <gmurphy10@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> You should have asked for a return of the tuition for this course if the
> rest of it was as fictitious as this. In that it resembles the YEC essay
> Burgy posted.
>
> Shalom,
> George
>
> ---- Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net> wrote:
>> When I was a college student studying American History at the University
>> of
>> Missouri, a southerner, Dr Bugg, was our professor. During one of his
>> lectures on the Civil War he timed the ending to absolute perfection. He
>> drove home the point that when Lincoln took office some southern states
>> seceded, but it wasn't until he passed a Republican tariff bill on
>> imported
>> goods that the rest of the states could see what was coming with a
>> Republican administration and the remainder of the thirteen states seceded
>> and formed the Confederacy. His point was that Lincoln caused the war.
>> The
>> seceding states would have come back into the fold, slavery wasn't going
>> to
>> survive much longer and would go away on its own, and the lives of over a
>> million men would have been spared. To this day I can still hear him
>> thunder, "And the man of the hour was never Abraham Lincoln, but Stephen
>> A.
>> Douglas"! Then the bell rang and we all remained stunned in our seats.
>>
>> Dick Fischer, GPA president
>> Genesis Proclaimed Association
>> "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"
>> www.genesisproclaimed.org
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Ted Davis
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:09 AM
>> To: asa@calvin.edu; gordon brown
>> Subject: Re: [asa] Lincoln and Darwin
>>
>> I read somewhere last year (I think in a history magazine, but in
>> something
>> by a professional historian), in an article on Lincoln and Darwin, that
>> the
>> 3 individuals about whom historians had written the most were, in order:
>>
>> Jesus
>> Napoleon
>> Lincoln
>>
>> Darwin was somewhere down the list.
>>
>> IMO, Darwin was probably the most influential scientist of the 19th
>> century, in terms of influence of ideas on the wider culture. But that's
>> certainly an arguable point -- who is to say that Faraday or Maxwell or
>> Pasteur or Liebig or ... well, you can probably come up with several other
>> names here, wasn't equally influential, since their ideas ended up in
>> zillions of important applications. It depends on the kinds of influences
>> you want to talk about.
>>
>> Darwin was also IMO one of the greatest scientists of his century, but
>> (again) you can make a good case for Helmholtz (he's my own choice for
>> number one) and others.
>>
>> When it comes to statesmen from that century, however, it's hard to make a
>> case for anyone other than Lincoln, IMO. Certainly the greatest American
>> president of any century, and enormously influential all over the world.
>>
>> As a single bicentennial day, I doubt there's a more important one than
>> this when it comes to multiple individuals.
>>
>> Ted
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