RE: [asa] Lincoln and Darwin

From: <gmurphy10@neo.rr.com>
Date: Fri Feb 13 2009 - 18:36:18 EST

You should have asked for a return of the tuition for this course if the rest of it was as fictitious as this. In that it resembles the YEC essay Burgy posted.

Shalom,
George

---- Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net> wrote:
> When I was a college student studying American History at the University of
> Missouri, a southerner, Dr Bugg, was our professor. During one of his
> lectures on the Civil War he timed the ending to absolute perfection. He
> drove home the point that when Lincoln took office some southern states
> seceded, but it wasn't until he passed a Republican tariff bill on imported
> goods that the rest of the states could see what was coming with a
> Republican administration and the remainder of the thirteen states seceded
> and formed the Confederacy. His point was that Lincoln caused the war. The
> seceding states would have come back into the fold, slavery wasn't going to
> survive much longer and would go away on its own, and the lives of over a
> million men would have been spared. To this day I can still hear him
> thunder, "And the man of the hour was never Abraham Lincoln, but Stephen A.
> Douglas"! Then the bell rang and we all remained stunned in our seats.
>
> Dick Fischer, GPA president
> Genesis Proclaimed Association
> "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"
> www.genesisproclaimed.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of Ted Davis
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:09 AM
> To: asa@calvin.edu; gordon brown
> Subject: Re: [asa] Lincoln and Darwin
>
> I read somewhere last year (I think in a history magazine, but in something
> by a professional historian), in an article on Lincoln and Darwin, that the
> 3 individuals about whom historians had written the most were, in order:
>
> Jesus
> Napoleon
> Lincoln
>
> Darwin was somewhere down the list.
>
> IMO, Darwin was probably the most influential scientist of the 19th
> century, in terms of influence of ideas on the wider culture. But that's
> certainly an arguable point -- who is to say that Faraday or Maxwell or
> Pasteur or Liebig or ... well, you can probably come up with several other
> names here, wasn't equally influential, since their ideas ended up in
> zillions of important applications. It depends on the kinds of influences
> you want to talk about.
>
> Darwin was also IMO one of the greatest scientists of his century, but
> (again) you can make a good case for Helmholtz (he's my own choice for
> number one) and others.
>
> When it comes to statesmen from that century, however, it's hard to make a
> case for anyone other than Lincoln, IMO. Certainly the greatest American
> president of any century, and enormously influential all over the world.
>
> As a single bicentennial day, I doubt there's a more important one than
> this when it comes to multiple individuals.
>
> Ted
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