RE: [asa] Flat Earth in earlier Christendom

Regarding the Job quote, you said: True, being one of the oldest writings if
not the oldest, it's not
surprising since it was a prevailing view.

A great point since the book of Job likely predates Aristotle by a 1000
years or more.

You said: Sway him of what? That the Bible *taught* a spherical earth? Their
convictions of a spherical earth were not revealed from scripture, were
they? Respect in that sense would hardly be warranted, would it?

The problem is that he is convinced the Bible teaches a flat earth (at least
in the past) and those that say it doesn't are revisionists. My argument is
that it doesn't teach a flat or spherical Earth since the Bible is not a
science book, but that too is considered revisionist by him.

Coope

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> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of skrogh.
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:19 PM
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> Subject: RE: [asa] Flat Earth in earlier Christendom
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> Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king "saw a tree of great height at the
> centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the
> earth's farthest bounds."
>
> The question is not about this verse *teaching* a Flat Earth, as
> say a tenet
> of scripture. But rather, why would vision of a setting that could only
> occur in a flat earth model, be used in the first place? It is not
> surprising at all considering ANE Cosmologies that people already
> believed.
> It is this model of cosmos and the earth that makes the description of
> seeing the tree at the center of the Earth from its farthest bounds makes
> actual sense.
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> http://home.messiah.edu/~kbauer/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
> Behalf Of George Cooper
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:56 PM
> To: ASA
> Subject: Re: [asa] Flat Earth in earlier Christendom
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> Thanks Gordon
>
> Ah ha! The Daniel verse is a close match to the idea of climbing a tall
> tree to see the edge of the Earth, but it was a vision (per verse 10) and
> hardly justifies the claim by anyone that the Bible is advocating a flat
> Earth.
>
>
> Coope
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> From: gordon brown <Gordon.Brown@Colorado.EDU>
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:10:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [asa] Flat Earth in earlier Christendom
>
> Maybe he has heard of what Nebuchadnezzar said in Daniel 4:11 about what
> he had dreamed. See also Matthew 4:8.
>
> Gordon Brown (ASA member)
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, George Cooper wrote:
>
> > Anyone know the answer to the other question posed?
> >
> >
> >
> > "He [the astrophysicist] also claims the Bible says Paul in Revelations
> > (ha!) climbed a tall tree and saw the edges of the Earth. Is there any
> > related verse about this?"
> >
> >
> >
> > Coope
> >
> >
> >
> >
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