Re: sacraments as means of grace (was Re: [asa] Pregnancy & Communion)

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
Date: Fri Nov 07 2008 - 23:03:00 EST

As I understand it, the Swiss Brethren were notably law-abiding. The
Amish are some of their descendants. On the other hand, Luther was faced
with ultra-radical groups who took over a couple cities. The Dutch
Mennonites were also law-abiding. A group was invited to work the river
near Dantzig. When the bellicose Prussians moved in, they accepted
Catherine the Great's invitation to settle in the Ukraine.

As to variety, in Steinbach, Manitoba, there were in the 50s 8 Mennonite
churches representing 7 different denominations. Some Mennonites are
similar to Baptists, but most are pourers or more like traditional
Methodists in their view on sanctification.
Dave (ASA)

On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:30:35 +1300 Don Nield <d.nield@auckland.ac.nz>
writes:
> Murray, Dave:
> As I understand it, the radical reformation (by people who later
> became
> labeled as Anabaptists) started in Zurich, Zwingli's city. Civil
> disorder was probably more important than theology in determining
> Zwingli's stance in this instance.
> Don
>
> Murray Hogg wrote:
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Hmm... seems there's a darker side to Zwingli's story I'm not
> familiar
> > with. I'll have to have a look into that. I'd always thought
> Luther
> > was the bane of the Anabaptists - but if the Anabaptists
> themselves
> > don't see it that way...
> >
> > Are member congregations of Baptist conventions/associations very
>
> > independent minded over there? Here we're positively anarchistic
> (n
> > Baptists = n^2 opinions!)!
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Murray
> >
> > D. F. Siemens, Jr. wrote:
> >> Murray,
> >> Sorry that I did not recognize that you had mentioned Zwingli.
> Yes, the
> >> only Baptist church in their terminology are individual
> congregations.
> >> The groups are commonly conventions or associations on this side
> of the
> >> pond, whereas your group forms a union.
> >>
> >> There is much to commend in Zwingli, but he is detested in
> Anabaptist
> >> circles as the most vicious persecuter among the reformers. But
> it was
> >> Catholics who almost exterminated the Hutterites.
> >> Dave (ASA)
> >
>
>
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