RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight Creationist bill

From: George Cooper <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu Jun 19 2008 - 10:19:49 EDT

This Sunday (June 22) will be 375 years to the day when Galileo went on
trial. The Governor seems like a great guy -- I'm not even bothered with
the reported exorcism he was involved with. However, I think Pope Urban
VIII, once a trusted friend to Galileo, was a good guy, too, but he was
wrong to suppress the truth that results from good science. Likewise,
Governor Jindal is wrong if his intent is to allow subjective non-science to
be allowed to taught as an alternative scientific theory (as defined by the
scientific method). Otherwise, astrology, Flatearthers, Geocentrists, etc.,
will enjoy this new freedom. [This is a little overstated since the school
board, apparently, would have to ok it, I suppose.]

Whatever happens in Louisiana will be carried into the other states. The
silver lining might be that Texas (my state) could get an infusion of some
"good" science teachers. *wink*

"Coope"

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of John Walley
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:46 PM
To: 'George Cooper'; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight
Creationist bill

A few interesting sidenotes on Bobby Jindal that may not be known or obvious
to all, most notably he is from Indian ancestry and a Roman Catholic and has
a Biology degree and was accepted into med school at Harvard and Yale.

John

* He was elected Governor of Louisiana on October 20, 2007, with 54 percent
of the vote in the primary, winning 60 of 64 parishes displacing incumbent
Democrat Governor Kathleen Blanco.

* Jindal was born in Baton Rouge on June 10, 1971. He graduated from Baton
Rouge High School in 1988 and went on to attend Brown University where he
graduated with honors in biology and public policy. Following his graduation
from Brown he attended Oxford University in England as a Rhodes Scholar,
having turned down admissions to medical and law schools at both Harvard and
Yale.

* In 1994, Jindal went to work for McKinsey and Company as a consultant for
Fortune 500 companies before entering public service. In 1996, he was
appointed Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals
(DHH). There were many issues that needed resolving during his tenure, not
the least of which was the growing deficit in Louisiana's Medicaid program.
During Jindal's tenure as DHH Secretary, he rescued Louisiana's Medicaid
program from bankruptcy, childhood immunizations increased, Louisiana ranked
third best nationally in health care screenings for children, and new and
expanded services for elderly and disabled persons were offered.

* In 1998, Jindal was appointed Executive Director of the National
Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare. As Executive Director, he
was responsible for the day-to-day operations of the Commission, whose work
continue to be the driving force behind much of the ongoing debate on how to
strengthen and improve Medicare.

* At the conclusion of the Commission's work, Jindal was appointed President
of the University of Louisiana System, the 16th largest higher education
system in the country. While serving as President, Jindal worked to
establish areas of excellence at each individual institution.

* President George W. Bush appointed Jindal to serve as Assistant Secretary
for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in 2001. In that
position, he served as the principal policy advisor to the Secretary of
Health and Human Services. He later resigned from the position in 2003 to
return to Louisiana and run for elected office for the first time. In that
race, Jindal went from being a relatively unknown candidate for Governor, to
receiving the most votes in the primary election and eventually 48 percent
of the vote in runoff.

* In 2004 he was elected to the 109th United States Congress representing
the First District of Louisiana. In Congress he was elected Freshman Class
President and served on the House Committee on Education and the Workforce,
the House Committee on Homeland Security, and the House Committee on
Resources. Bobby also served as Assistant Majority Whip. In his first term
he passed a number of notable pieces of legislation and played an
instrumental role in Louisiana's recovery from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
His noteworthy accomplishments include the passage of legislation to bring
significant offshore energy revenues to Louisiana for the first time and
legislation that keeps Federal Emergency Management Agency from taxing
certain recovery grants as income.

* Jindal was re-elected to Congress in 2006 with 88 percent of the vote
majority.

* Jindal also recently met with McCain and is being considered as one of his
running mates.

 
http://www.gov.state.la.us/index.cfm?md=pagebuilder&tmp=home&navID=38&cpID=1
&cfmID=0&catID=0

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of George Cooper
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:44 PM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight
Creationist bill

Update:

The Louisiana bill that will allow ID and Creation science into science
classrooms has passed both the House and Senate. It is a given that
Governor Jindal will sign it into law.

"Coope"

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of George Cooper
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:05 PM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight
Creationist bill

Update to the Louisiana ID and Creation Science in school state governmental
legislation.

The following YouTube video is entitled: "[Governor] Jindal Wants
Intelligent Design Taught in Schools" He argues for allowing school boards
to make their own decisions regarding the teaching of ID in science classes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va84asuu1zQ

Also,
A Louisiana TV debate between Senator Nevers and Barbara Forrest (Americans
United for the Separation of Church and State and expert witness in Dover
trial). http://www.wwltv.com/video/?z=y&nvid=248615

"Coope"

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of George Cooper
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:09 AM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight
Creationist bill

I think this is the bill as it stands now ...

http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=482728

"Coope"

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of gordon brown
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:23 PM
To: Donald F Calbreath
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight
Creationist bill

Do you have the web address for the bill? I am not sure what to google,
and I would like to see what A, B, and C.1-7 say.

Gordon Brown (ASA member)

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Donald F Calbreath wrote:

> Before people get too upset, perhaps they should read the actual
legislation. The standard material must be taught first before any
supplementary material can be introduced. It specifically forbids the
promotion of any specific religious doctrine.
> from the bill:
> C. A teacher shall teach the material presented in the standard
> textbook 8 supplied by the school system and thereafter may use
> supplemental
textbooks
> 9 and other instructional materials to help students understand,
> analyze,
critique,
> 10 and review scientific theories in an objective manner, as permitted
> by
the city,
> 11 parish, or other local public school board.
> 12 D. This Section shall not be construed to promote any religious
doctrine,
> 13 promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious
beliefs, or
> 14 promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion
>
> Public education is in pretty sad shape when the leaders don't know
> what
the bill says and choose to believe erroneous propaganda instead of the
facts.
>
> Don Calbreath
> ________________________________________
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of
George Cooper [georgecooper@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight
> Creationist
bill
>
> http://lasciencecoalition.org/2008/06/12/reject_sb_733/
>
>
> "Baton Rouge, LA, June 11, 2008 - In response to numerous attacks on
science education in the Bayou State, concerned parents, teachers and
scientists are getting organized. The new group - Louisiana Coalition for
Science - calls upon the Senate to oppose SB 733, a bill which will open the
door to creationism in public schools."
>
>
>
> "Coope"
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