RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight Creationist bill

I agree it was dissapointing to hear of Jindal supporting ID in Louisiana. I think this is a mistake and I thought with his background he should have known better. Maybe there is a way to reach him on this and keep him from going to the matt over it. He seems to be pretty open on most other issues. Perhaps the ASA should send him a letter or something?

Having lived in Louisiana for 10 years before, I was very encouraged to see someone like him looking like he was going to shatter the mold of traditionally corrupt Louisiana politics and usher in some real change.

However I will say this, if he continues to push ID there, he is underestimating the fight he is going to have on his hands. Barbara Forrest teaches there at Southeastern in Hammond and I know she is salivating over the opportunity for Round 2 against ID.

Thanks

John

--- On Thu, 6/19/08, George Cooper <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: George Cooper <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to fight Creationist bill
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 10:19 AM
> This Sunday (June 22) will be 375 years to the day when
> Galileo went on
> trial. The Governor seems like a great guy -- I'm not
> even bothered with
> the reported exorcism he was involved with. However, I
> think Pope Urban
> VIII, once a trusted friend to Galileo, was a good guy,
> too, but he was
> wrong to suppress the truth that results from good science.
> Likewise,
> Governor Jindal is wrong if his intent is to allow
> subjective non-science to
> be allowed to taught as an alternative scientific theory
> (as defined by the
> scientific method). Otherwise, astrology, Flatearthers,
> Geocentrists, etc.,
> will enjoy this new freedom. [This is a little overstated
> since the school
> board, apparently, would have to ok it, I suppose.]
>
> Whatever happens in Louisiana will be carried into the
> other states. The
> silver lining might be that Texas (my state) could get an
> infusion of some
> "good" science teachers. *wink*
>
> "Coope"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of John Walley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:46 PM
> To: 'George Cooper'; asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to
> fight
> Creationist bill
>
>
> A few interesting sidenotes on Bobby Jindal that may not be
> known or obvious
> to all, most notably he is from Indian ancestry and a Roman
> Catholic and has
> a Biology degree and was accepted into med school at
> Harvard and Yale.
>
> John
>
>
> * He was elected Governor of Louisiana on October 20, 2007,
> with 54 percent
> of the vote in the primary, winning 60 of 64 parishes
> displacing incumbent
> Democrat Governor Kathleen Blanco.
>
> * Jindal was born in Baton Rouge on June 10, 1971. He
> graduated from Baton
> Rouge High School in 1988 and went on to attend Brown
> University where he
> graduated with honors in biology and public policy.
> Following his graduation
> from Brown he attended Oxford University in England as a
> Rhodes Scholar,
> having turned down admissions to medical and law schools at
> both Harvard and
> Yale.
>
> * In 1994, Jindal went to work for McKinsey and Company as
> a consultant for
> Fortune 500 companies before entering public service. In
> 1996, he was
> appointed Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health
> and Hospitals
> (DHH). There were many issues that needed resolving during
> his tenure, not
> the least of which was the growing deficit in
> Louisiana's Medicaid program.
> During Jindal's tenure as DHH Secretary, he rescued
> Louisiana's Medicaid
> program from bankruptcy, childhood immunizations increased,
> Louisiana ranked
> third best nationally in health care screenings for
> children, and new and
> expanded services for elderly and disabled persons were
> offered.
>
> * In 1998, Jindal was appointed Executive Director of the
> National
> Bipartisan Commission on the Future of Medicare. As
> Executive Director, he
> was responsible for the day-to-day operations of the
> Commission, whose work
> continue to be the driving force behind much of the ongoing
> debate on how to
> strengthen and improve Medicare.
>
> * At the conclusion of the Commission's work, Jindal
> was appointed President
> of the University of Louisiana System, the 16th largest
> higher education
> system in the country. While serving as President, Jindal
> worked to
> establish areas of excellence at each individual
> institution.
>
> * President George W. Bush appointed Jindal to serve as
> Assistant Secretary
> for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in
> 2001. In that
> position, he served as the principal policy advisor to the
> Secretary of
> Health and Human Services. He later resigned from the
> position in 2003 to
> return to Louisiana and run for elected office for the
> first time. In that
> race, Jindal went from being a relatively unknown candidate
> for Governor, to
> receiving the most votes in the primary election and
> eventually 48 percent
> of the vote in runoff.
>
> * In 2004 he was elected to the 109th United States
> Congress representing
> the First District of Louisiana. In Congress he was
> elected Freshman Class
> President and served on the House Committee on Education
> and the Workforce,
> the House Committee on Homeland Security, and the House
> Committee on
> Resources. Bobby also served as Assistant Majority Whip.
> In his first term
> he passed a number of notable pieces of legislation and
> played an
> instrumental role in Louisiana's recovery from
> Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
> His noteworthy accomplishments include the passage of
> legislation to bring
> significant offshore energy revenues to Louisiana for the
> first time and
> legislation that keeps Federal Emergency Management Agency
> from taxing
> certain recovery grants as income.
>
> * Jindal was re-elected to Congress in 2006 with 88 percent
> of the vote
> majority.
>
> * Jindal also recently met with McCain and is being
> considered as one of his
> running mates.
>
>
> http://www.gov.state.la.us/index.cfm?md=pagebuilder&tmp=home&navID=38&cpID=1
> &cfmID=0&catID=0
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of George Cooper
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:44 PM
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to
> fight
> Creationist bill
>
>
> Update:
>
> The Louisiana bill that will allow ID and Creation science
> into science
> classrooms has passed both the House and Senate. It is a
> given that
> Governor Jindal will sign it into law.
>
> "Coope"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of George Cooper
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:05 PM
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to
> fight
> Creationist bill
>
> Update to the Louisiana ID and Creation Science in school
> state governmental
> legislation.
>
> The following YouTube video is entitled: "[Governor]
> Jindal Wants
> Intelligent Design Taught in Schools" He argues for
> allowing school boards
> to make their own decisions regarding the teaching of ID in
> science classes.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va84asuu1zQ
>
>
> Also,
> A Louisiana TV debate between Senator Nevers and Barbara
> Forrest (Americans
> United for the Separation of Church and State and expert
> witness in Dover
> trial). http://www.wwltv.com/video/?z=y&nvid=248615
>
> "Coope"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of George Cooper
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:09 AM
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to
> fight
> Creationist bill
>
> I think this is the bill as it stands now ...
>
> http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=482728
>
>
> "Coope"
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of gordon brown
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:23 PM
> To: Donald F Calbreath
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: RE: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed to
> fight
> Creationist bill
>
> Do you have the web address for the bill? I am not sure
> what to google,
> and I would like to see what A, B, and C.1-7 say.
>
> Gordon Brown (ASA member)
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Donald F Calbreath wrote:
>
> > Before people get too upset, perhaps they should read
> the actual
> legislation. The standard material must be taught first
> before any
> supplementary material can be introduced. It specifically
> forbids the
> promotion of any specific religious doctrine.
> > from the bill:
> > C. A teacher shall teach the material presented in the
> standard
> > textbook 8 supplied by the school system and
> thereafter may use
> > supplemental
> textbooks
> > 9 and other instructional materials to help students
> understand,
> > analyze,
> critique,
> > 10 and review scientific theories in an objective
> manner, as permitted
> > by
> the city,
> > 11 parish, or other local public school board.
> > 12 D. This Section shall not be construed to promote
> any religious
> doctrine,
> > 13 promote discrimination for or against a particular
> set of religious
> beliefs, or
> > 14 promote discrimination for or against religion or
> nonreligion
> >
> > Public education is in pretty sad shape when the
> leaders don't know
> > what
> the bill says and choose to believe erroneous propaganda
> instead of the
> facts.
> >
> > Don Calbreath
> > ________________________________________
> > From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> > Behalf Of
> George Cooper [georgecooper@sbcglobal.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:04 PM
> > To: asa@calvin.edu
> > Subject: [asa] Lousiana Coalition for Science formed
> to fight
> > Creationist
> bill
> >
> >
> http://lasciencecoalition.org/2008/06/12/reject_sb_733/
> >
> >
> > "Baton Rouge, LA, June 11, 2008 - In response to
> numerous attacks on
> science education in the Bayou State, concerned parents,
> teachers and
> scientists are getting organized. The new group - Louisiana
> Coalition for
> Science - calls upon the Senate to oppose SB 733, a bill
> which will open the
> door to creationism in public schools."
> >
> >
> >
> > "Coope"
> >
> >
> >
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