Re: [asa] Miracle healing?

I agree with Mike...I don't think miracles have to be
"equal opportunity" Afterall, even when Jesus Himself
walked on the earth performing miracles, not EVERYONE
experienced them...people still died then, and got
sick then, etc...

Dawkin's choice of words though is interesting:
"condemnation". This assumes that somehow we are
allowed to sit in judgement of a God that has the
power of life and death. He created us--what gives us
the authority (and wisdom!?) to judge whether God's
choices of life and death are wrong or right? It's
true, we praise God for saving life...but the opposite
of praising God' choice is not condemnation of
God...the opposite I think is mourning God's choice. A
mourning that God Himself shares...It was not for
Lazarus that Jesus wept, it was for the families and
friends that Lazarus left behind.

Besides, looking at it from a "God's-eye view"...death
is not a problem...death is not the be all end all
that we see it as (in an earthly/secular sense)...God
is lord over both life and death, and he can just as
easily raise the dead as He can preserve the living.
So for all we know, sparing the 1 and taking the 5,000
are in the best interests of each one of them--in
fact, from the eyes of faith, we know that this is
so--all 5,001 of those people are in His care.

In Christ,
Christine (ASA member)

--- Nucacids <nucacids@wowway.com> wrote:

> "Then Dawkins asks about the 5,000 who died. Where
> was God then, or why
> did they all perish? Why was one child saved, and
> glory given to God,
> yet no condemnation for God on the 5,000 that died?"
>
> So God cannot perform a miracle in an individual's
> life unless the same
> miracle is performed for everyone?
>
> -Mike Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dehler, Bernie" <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> To: <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [asa] Miracle healing?
>
>
> >
> > It reminds me of a YouTube debate I saw with
> Richard Dawkins and Alister
> > McGrath. I think Dawkins got him.
> >
> > Dawkins asked about the case of a major tragedy
> where maybe 5,000 die,
> > but maybe a child is pulled-out of the rubble.
> Some people say it is a
> > miracle... an answer to prayer. Is that a miracle;
> an answer to prayer,
> > Dawkin's asks?
> >
> > McGrath says yes, it can be.
> >
> > Then Dawkins asks about the 5,000 who died. Where
> was God then, or why
> > did they all perish? Why was one child saved, and
> glory given to God,
> > yet no condemnation for God on the 5,000 that
> died?
> >
> > I think McGrath fumbled on that one... was caught
> trying to appear to
> > have an answer but really had no good reply.
> >
> > ...Bernie
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Christine Smith
> > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:23 AM
> > To: asa@calvin.edu
> > Subject: [asa] Miracle healing?
> >
> > I'm no doctor, but if rigor mortis really was
> setting
> > in and there was zero brain function, I don't see
> how
> > this couldn't be a true miracle :) --any doubters
> out
> > there want to put out an alternative explanation??
> >
> http://www.newsnet5.com/health/16363548/detail.html
> >
> > In Christ,
> > Christine (ASA member)
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