I would be very reluctant to use Wikipedia as a source of information. There is some fairly good evidence to suggest that the material provided (especially with regard to ID and related fields) is not reliable. When needed corrections are made, someone seems to take it upon themselves to delete the corrections and change things back. Similar things have happened to people who have a different read on global warming according to the article referenced below. One science writer has tried for years to get her correct first name changed, but somebody keeps changing it back. My daughter the librarian (M.S. in Library and Information Science from the University of Washington) gets very sarcastic when people cite Wikipedia as a reference - it's certainly not a source sh considers valuable .
Wikipedia's zealots
The thought police at the supposedly independent site are fervently enforcing the climate orthodoxy
Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post Published: Saturday, April 12, 2008
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Don
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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Dehler, Bernie [bernie.dehler@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:38 AM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: [asa] ID is not "science" because...("The Design of Life")
More about Panda's and ID, from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Pandas_and_People
Editions
There are currently two editions of the book, the 1989 first edition edited by Charles Thaxton, and the 1993 second edition, which included a "Note to Teachers" by Mark D. Hartwig and Stephen C. Meyer. A forthcoming third edition is to be retitled The Design of Life. Jon Buell, the president of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics, said that the ruling in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District that intelligent design was religious would make the textbook "radioactive" in public schools and would be "catastrophic" for the marketability of both the present (second) edition and the forthcoming third edition, citing possible losses of around US$500,000. The renaming of the book is viewed by some as way of mitigating this and at the same time distancing the book from past controversy.
And then...
2007 The Design of Life
Main article: The Design of Life
The third edition of Of Pandas and People, retitled The Design of Life, was released November 19, 2007. It was authored by William A. Dembski and Jonathan Wells. A 2004 announcement from publisher Foundation for Thought and Ethics listed the authors as: Michael J. Behe, Percival Davis, Dean H. Kenyon, Dembski, and Wells. In testimony in the 2005 Kitzmiller v. Dover trial, Behe stated that he was not at that time an author of The Design of Life[46].
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Life
The Design of Life: Discovering Signs of Intelligence in Biological Systems is the third edition of a controversial<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_book> college and university-level biology<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology> textbook<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textbook> that espouses the idea of intelligent design<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design> by presenting various arguments against the scientific theory<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory> of evolution<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution>.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Life#cite_note-0#cite_note-0> It has a title similar to that of a well-known biology text, first published by Yale University Press<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University_Press> in 1987.[2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Life#cite_note-1#cite_note-1>
But why doesn’t the Discovery Institute sell and recommend this book???
…Bernie
-----Original Message-----
From: PvM [mailto:pvm.pandas@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:21 AM
To: Dehler, Bernie
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] ID is not "scinece" because...
They now have the "Son of Pandas" aka Explore Evolution. Equally
poorly written but with more careful chosen text although much of it
still points back to creationist arguments.
While the DI publicly claims that it does not support the teaching of
ID, it obviously is sending conflicting messages.
Since ID is purely negative anyway, arguments against Darwinian theory
are nothing more that ID in disguise.
Let's not fool ourselves to believe otherwise.
Pim
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com> wrote:
> "Exploring Evolution" doesn't teach ID, as far as I remember- I have a
> copy. As for "Pandas", I thought the Discovery Institute doesn't
> recommend that as a textbook? Casey Luskin told me that (he's with the
> Discovery Institute).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Opderbeck [mailto:dopderbeck@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:46 PM
> To: Dehler, Bernie
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: [asa] ID is not "scinece" because...
>
> Yes there is; it's called "Explore Evolution":
> http://www.discovery.org/a/4096
>
> Before that you of course had "Of Pandas and People."
>
> Before anyone lambastes me, I'm just pointing out that there is a
> textbook, not arguing for its merits (or demerits) or suggesting that
> ID is "science," which I think is in any event a pointless discussion.
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > One piece of evidence that "ID is not science" is that there exists no
> > textbook for it. The Discovery Institute could make a textbook if
> they
> > wanted- but they don't. And if they did, you know the attention and
> > critique it would get-so this proves it is not ready as a science.
> > Therefore- how could it be taught in schools, if there's no textbook
> for it
> > ???
>
>
>
> --
> David W. Opderbeck
> Associate Professor of Law
> Seton Hall University Law School
> Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology
>
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