More about Panda's and ID, from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Pandas_and_People
Editions
There are currently two editions of the book, the 1989 first edition
edited by Charles Thaxton, and the 1993 second edition, which included a
"Note to Teachers" by Mark D. Hartwig and Stephen C. Meyer. A
forthcoming third edition is to be retitled The Design of Life. Jon
Buell, the president of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics, said that
the ruling in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District that intelligent
design was religious would make the textbook "radioactive" in public
schools and would be "catastrophic" for the marketability of both the
present (second) edition and the forthcoming third edition, citing
possible losses of around US$500,000. The renaming of the book is viewed
by some as way of mitigating this and at the same time distancing the
book from past controversy.
And then...
2007 The Design of Life
Main article: The Design of Life
The third edition of Of Pandas and People, retitled The Design of Life,
was released November 19, 2007. It was authored by William A. Dembski
and Jonathan Wells. A 2004 announcement from publisher Foundation for
Thought and Ethics listed the authors as: Michael J. Behe, Percival
Davis, Dean H. Kenyon, Dembski, and Wells. In testimony in the 2005
Kitzmiller v. Dover trial, Behe stated that he was not at that time an
author of The Design of Life[46].
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Life
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Life>
The Design of Life: Discovering Signs of Intelligence in Biological
Systems is the third edition of a controversial
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_book> college and
university-level biology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology>
textbook <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textbook> that espouses the idea
of intelligent design <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design>
by presenting various arguments against the scientific theory
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory> of evolution
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution> .[1]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Life#cite_note-0#cite_note-0
> It has a title similar to that of a well-known biology text, first
published by Yale University Press
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University_Press> in 1987.[2]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Life#cite_note-1#cite_note-1
>
But why doesn't the Discovery Institute sell and recommend this book???
...Bernie
-----Original Message-----
From: PvM [mailto:pvm.pandas@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:21 AM
To: Dehler, Bernie
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] ID is not "scinece" because...
They now have the "Son of Pandas" aka Explore Evolution. Equally
poorly written but with more careful chosen text although much of it
still points back to creationist arguments.
While the DI publicly claims that it does not support the teaching of
ID, it obviously is sending conflicting messages.
Since ID is purely negative anyway, arguments against Darwinian theory
are nothing more that ID in disguise.
Let's not fool ourselves to believe otherwise.
Pim
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
wrote:
> "Exploring Evolution" doesn't teach ID, as far as I remember- I have a
> copy. As for "Pandas", I thought the Discovery Institute doesn't
> recommend that as a textbook? Casey Luskin told me that (he's with
the
> Discovery Institute).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Opderbeck [mailto:dopderbeck@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:46 PM
> To: Dehler, Bernie
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: [asa] ID is not "scinece" because...
>
> Yes there is; it's called "Explore Evolution":
> http://www.discovery.org/a/4096
>
> Before that you of course had "Of Pandas and People."
>
> Before anyone lambastes me, I'm just pointing out that there is a
> textbook, not arguing for its merits (or demerits) or suggesting that
> ID is "science," which I think is in any event a pointless
discussion.
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Dehler, Bernie
<bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > One piece of evidence that "ID is not science" is that there exists
no
> > textbook for it. The Discovery Institute could make a textbook if
> they
> > wanted- but they don't. And if they did, you know the attention
and
> > critique it would get-so this proves it is not ready as a science.
> > Therefore- how could it be taught in schools, if there's no
textbook
> for it
> > ???
>
>
>
> --
> David W. Opderbeck
> Associate Professor of Law
> Seton Hall University Law School
> Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology
>
>
> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with
> "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message.
>
To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with
"unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message.
Received on Wed May 7 12:39:43 2008
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Wed May 07 2008 - 12:39:43 EDT