Re: [asa] The Hebrew for the Making of Man

I haven't heard Joel Olsteen personally, but my
impression is about the same...I've heard it described
as "watered down" or "shallow" Christianity,
Christianity for beginners, "prosperity Gospel", etc.
One of my non-Christian co-workers once told me that
he liked Joel Olsteen because (to paraphrase), "he
doesn't go overboard, he just talks about how to be a
good person." Articles I have read indicate that he
brings people in with this "positive message", and
then talks about the Bible/Gospel later. Maybe someone
can correct me if I'm wrong...but I don't have much
interest in it myself...

Anyway, off to lunch...
In Christ,
Christine

--- j burg <hossradbourne@gmail.com> wrote:

> Being that friend wife is a PCUSA minister, we are
> seldom home on
> Sunday mornings. Yesterday, however, due to illness,
> we stayed home
> and watched Joel Osteen from the Houston Lakewood
> Church. My sister in
> Michigan hardly ever misses him.
>
> Anyhow, he sounded a lot like the late Norman
> Vincent Peale. Nothing
> in his sermon I could find to argue with although it
> was fairly
> repetitious. Compared to most Presbyterian sermons I
> have heard there
> was not a lot of "meat" in it.
>
> Anyway -- he is not a "Hagee" or a Robinson or like
> any of the others
> mentioned in this thread.
>
> Burgy
>
> On 2/4/08, Janice Matchett <janmatch@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > At 03:22 AM 2/4/2008, Iain Strachan wrote:
> >
> > "You ain't seen nothing yet! On a business trip to
> the Indianapolis last
> > week, I tuned in on my hotel TV to a channel
> called "Rejoice TV", where a
> > suited preacher called Dr. Neal Jackson ...had got
> a mathematician to work
> > out that there would have been 32 billion people
> born in the world since
> > Adam. Then, taking some figures (from Ezekiel I
> think?) about the
> > dimensions of Heaven, he figured out that if as
> many as half of humankind
> > made it to heaven that they'd each have 210 square
> miles in God's mansion
> > (with ceilings a mile high); a whole lotta real
> estate. I am not kidding -
> > I actually saw this. That was followed by another
> preacher, I forget the
> > name, preaching about "prosperity gospel", who
> seemed to have his
> > congregation whipped up into some kind of frenzy,
> doing bunny hops across
> > the floor and proclaiming "I'm never going to be
> in debt again!!". At this
> > point I was sufficiently turned off to turn it
> off. Christianity in Britain
> > seems a whole different religion as far as I can
> see. ~ Iain
> > @ It appears as if you can't see very far. No
> mature Christian in America
> > (or anywhere else) would think of tuning into any
> of the "Liars for Jesus"
> > aka "Grifter TV" for spiritual edification.
> >
> > And talking about TV "grifters" (liars for Jesus
> experts when it comes to
> > shearing dumb sheep), you ain't seen nothing yet!
> Floods, plagues,
> > pestillence, divine vengence, judgement, guilt --
> it's not a huge leap from
> > fire and brimstone to environmentalism:
> >
> > "Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen"
> ~ Rev. Sir John Houghton
> >
> > I tuned in to a tax-payer funded, "Public Radio"
> program where a female from
> > the group-think cloistered culture, by the name of
> Ms. Tippett, was
> > interviewing a suited preacher called Reverend
> Richard Cizik who was
> > talking about his conversion to .... get this:
> "the science of climate
> > change" after he got a scientist -- and also a
> "Reverend" (from The Royal
> > Society) -- who had worked out (with his computer
> models) that, climate
> > change is a weapon, and like terrorism, knows no
> boundaries. It can strike
> > anywhere in any form -- a heat wave in one place,
> a drought or a storm surge
> > in another" and that humankind has a 50/50 chance
> of surviving the 21st
> > century unless the US provides enough "love
> offerings" to stop that from
> > happening. And this proselytizer in impressive
> flowing robes also told him
> > that if anyone would dare go against the
> scientific consensus on climate
> > change he would be dismissed as a denier; a
> heretic, and a worker for the
> > Devil, ExxonMobil.
> >
> > I am not kidding - I actually heard this on public
> radio. And that was
> > followed by another preacher, I forget the name,
> preaching about "aversion
> > therapy", who seemed to have his congregation
> whipped up into some kind of
> > frenzy after he showed them a movie entitled
> "Clockwork Green" - (which had
> > distressing images of the projected ravages of
> "global warming"). I could
> > hear him leading his congregation in a frenzied
> chant, "I'm never going to
> > destroy the planet again!!"
> >
> > At this point I was sufficiently turned off to
> turn it off. Christianity on
> > public radio seems a whole different religion as
> far as I can see.
> >
> > ~ Janice ... who feels impelled by the Spirit to
> give an even bigger love
> > offerin' :) :
> >
>
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/1964460/posts?page=5#5
> >
> >
> >
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Received on Mon Feb 4 12:43:07 2008