Re: [asa] The Hebrew for the Making of Man

He does bring people in. I think about 16,000 every Sunday. He makes a
short "Baptist-like" call at the end. At least one D.A. here in
Houston routinely tosses Lakewood members from her juries because
"they are kooks."

jb

On 2/4/08, Christine Smith <christine_mb_smith@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I haven't heard Joel Olsteen personally, but my
> impression is about the same...I've heard it described
> as "watered down" or "shallow" Christianity,
> Christianity for beginners, "prosperity Gospel", etc.
> One of my non-Christian co-workers once told me that
> he liked Joel Olsteen because (to paraphrase), "he
> doesn't go overboard, he just talks about how to be a
> good person." Articles I have read indicate that he
> brings people in with this "positive message", and
> then talks about the Bible/Gospel later. Maybe someone
> can correct me if I'm wrong...but I don't have much
> interest in it myself...
>
> Anyway, off to lunch...
> In Christ,
> Christine
>
> --- j burg <hossradbourne@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Being that friend wife is a PCUSA minister, we are
> > seldom home on
> > Sunday mornings. Yesterday, however, due to illness,
> > we stayed home
> > and watched Joel Osteen from the Houston Lakewood
> > Church. My sister in
> > Michigan hardly ever misses him.
> >
> > Anyhow, he sounded a lot like the late Norman
> > Vincent Peale. Nothing
> > in his sermon I could find to argue with although it
> > was fairly
> > repetitious. Compared to most Presbyterian sermons I
> > have heard there
> > was not a lot of "meat" in it.
> >
> > Anyway -- he is not a "Hagee" or a Robinson or like
> > any of the others
> > mentioned in this thread.
> >
> > Burgy
> >
> > On 2/4/08, Janice Matchett <janmatch@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > > At 03:22 AM 2/4/2008, Iain Strachan wrote:
> > >
> > > "You ain't seen nothing yet! On a business trip to
> > the Indianapolis last
> > > week, I tuned in on my hotel TV to a channel
> > called "Rejoice TV", where a
> > > suited preacher called Dr. Neal Jackson ...had got
> > a mathematician to work
> > > out that there would have been 32 billion people
> > born in the world since
> > > Adam. Then, taking some figures (from Ezekiel I
> > think?) about the
> > > dimensions of Heaven, he figured out that if as
> > many as half of humankind
> > > made it to heaven that they'd each have 210 square
> > miles in God's mansion
> > > (with ceilings a mile high); a whole lotta real
> > estate. I am not kidding -
> > > I actually saw this. That was followed by another
> > preacher, I forget the
> > > name, preaching about "prosperity gospel", who
> > seemed to have his
> > > congregation whipped up into some kind of frenzy,
> > doing bunny hops across
> > > the floor and proclaiming "I'm never going to be
> > in debt again!!". At this
> > > point I was sufficiently turned off to turn it
> > off. Christianity in Britain
> > > seems a whole different religion as far as I can
> > see. ~ Iain
> > > @ It appears as if you can't see very far. No
> > mature Christian in America
> > > (or anywhere else) would think of tuning into any
> > of the "Liars for Jesus"
> > > aka "Grifter TV" for spiritual edification.
> > >
> > > And talking about TV "grifters" (liars for Jesus
> > experts when it comes to
> > > shearing dumb sheep), you ain't seen nothing yet!
> > Floods, plagues,
> > > pestillence, divine vengence, judgement, guilt --
> > it's not a huge leap from
> > > fire and brimstone to environmentalism:
> > >
> > > "Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen"
> > ~ Rev. Sir John Houghton
> > >
> > > I tuned in to a tax-payer funded, "Public Radio"
> > program where a female from
> > > the group-think cloistered culture, by the name of
> > Ms. Tippett, was
> > > interviewing a suited preacher called Reverend
> > Richard Cizik who was
> > > talking about his conversion to .... get this:
> > "the science of climate
> > > change" after he got a scientist -- and also a
> > "Reverend" (from The Royal
> > > Society) -- who had worked out (with his computer
> > models) that, climate
> > > change is a weapon, and like terrorism, knows no
> > boundaries. It can strike
> > > anywhere in any form -- a heat wave in one place,
> > a drought or a storm surge
> > > in another" and that humankind has a 50/50 chance
> > of surviving the 21st
> > > century unless the US provides enough "love
> > offerings" to stop that from
> > > happening. And this proselytizer in impressive
> > flowing robes also told him
> > > that if anyone would dare go against the
> > scientific consensus on climate
> > > change he would be dismissed as a denier; a
> > heretic, and a worker for the
> > > Devil, ExxonMobil.
> > >
> > > I am not kidding - I actually heard this on public
> > radio. And that was
> > > followed by another preacher, I forget the name,
> > preaching about "aversion
> > > therapy", who seemed to have his congregation
> > whipped up into some kind of
> > > frenzy after he showed them a movie entitled
> > "Clockwork Green" - (which had
> > > distressing images of the projected ravages of
> > "global warming"). I could
> > > hear him leading his congregation in a frenzied
> > chant, "I'm never going to
> > > destroy the planet again!!"
> > >
> > > At this point I was sufficiently turned off to
> > turn it off. Christianity on
> > > public radio seems a whole different religion as
> > far as I can see.
> > >
> > > ~ Janice ... who feels impelled by the Spirit to
> > give an even bigger love
> > > offerin' :) :
> > >
> >
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> > >
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