Re: [asa] CDESIGN PROPONETSISTS

For whatever its worth, Charles Thaxton lives here in Atlanta and he came and spoke at our RTB meeting last year and he gave a very interesting presentation on exactly this topic which was the history of the ID movement. He goes way back with it and is credited by Hugh Ross as being the "father of the ID movement".

The talk was very interesting and he mentions all the people and the places along the way and how it gained the momentum all the way up to Dover. I have his slides and even have the whole presentation videotaped but I never finished producing that. Maybe if there was any interest I could get around to finishing that.

Thanks

John

----- Original Message ----
From: Kirk Bertsche <Bertsche@aol.com>
To: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Cc: ASA <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:21:53 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] CDESIGN PROPONETSISTS

I think Michael's analysis below is insightful and important; the
documentary blurred this distinction.

Kirk

On Nov 14, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Michael Roberts wrote:

> There is much in favour of this claim but it is only a partial
> explanation, and it is not correct to state that ‘ID is solely
> creationism re-labeled’. For a start, against that, Philip Johnson had
> no YEC roots and became convinced of ID sui generis in Britain in
> 1987. Several other leaders of ID have no roots in YEC as with Behe,
> Dembski, Thaxton, Bradley and Pattle Pun and most continue to distance
> themselves from YEC. But Nancy Pearcey and Paul Nelson are clearly YEC
> as well as ID.
> However the replacement of “creation” by “design”, the
> refusal to come clean over the age of the earth, and the association
> of YEC and ID makes it difficult for observers to distinguish between
> the two. I hope that by dealing with the historical order of events,
> rather than an assessment of ID arguments, has indicated both how ID
> came about in the last 25 years and its relationship with YEC. ID may
> not be an evolved version of YEC, but many of its genes have been
> spliced in from YEC.

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