RE: [asa] Does ASA believe in Adam and Eve?

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>
Date: Thu Mar 22 2007 - 10:45:13 EDT

Hi George, you wrote:

 

Noah, & then his sons, were Adam's direct descendants according to a
literal reading of the biblical genealogies.

 

Agreed. And look up the nations started by Noah's grandsons. When did
the Assyrians (from Ashur) flourish? What about the Amorites? Ebla was
a Canaanite city dated to roughly 3000 BC. The dates of these and
related (Adamic) nations don't extend back in time to any time earlier
than that. So the date for Noah and the flood can be estimated by the
appearance of Noahic nations beginning in the 3rd millennium. This
jibes with the 900 years or so between Abraham at 2000 BC and the flood
at 2900 BC using the Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch figures.
It also agrees with Josephus who was an erstwhile historian and
Jubilees.

 

So let's pencil in 2900 BC for the flood which agrees with the dating of
the flood deposits found in the central cities of Mesopotamia. And of
course the flood story in Genesis has words and phrases identical to
those found in the Mesopotamian flood stories.

 

Now run the genealogies back to Adam and that places him somewhere in
the 5th millennium, in a Neolithic time frame which agrees with all the
cultural references in Genesis.

 

End of problem.

 

Now where is anything "devastating" to that synopsis other than the
common misunderstanding that all Homo sapiens derived from Adam?

 

Dick Fischer

Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org> www.genesisproclaimed.org

 

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of George Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:58 PM
To: Dick Fischer; ASA
Subject: Re: [asa] Does ASA believe in Adam and Eve?

 

 

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/

----- Original Message -----

From: Dick <mailto:dickfischer@verizon.net> Fischer

To: ASA <mailto:asa@calvin.edu>

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:42 PM

Subject: RE: [asa] Does ASA believe in Adam and Eve?

 

Hi George, you wrote:

 

According to Genesis Abraham is the ancestor not only of Israel but of
Edom, the Ishmaelites & all the descendants of Keturah. So yes, he is
"the father of many nations" biologically.

 

But the other point I made is really more devastating to Dick's claim:
The biblical ascribes the descent of many other people besides Israel to
Adam.

 

"Devastating"? Surely you are being over dramatic. Actually as I
remember Genesis all those "other people" came from Noah through Ham,
Shem, and Japheth. None of Adam's immediate kin survived the flood -
unless you know of some.

 

Dick Fischer

Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org> www.genesisproclaimed.org

 

 

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