Re: [asa] Question for all the theistic evolutionists

Perhaps before continuing, we should attempt to discover from Scripture how God defines the image of God. Bill Hamilton William E. Hamilton, Jr., Ph.D. 248.652.4148 (home) 248.821.8156 (mobile) "...If God is for us, who is against us?" Rom 8:31 ----- Original Message ---- From: David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com> To: John Burgeson (Burgy) <burgytwo@juno.com> Cc: asa@calvin.edu Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:55:49 PM Subject: Re: [asa] Question for all the theistic evolutionists Burgy, the argument about the aborignes is facile. The aborignes of Australia, being as fully human as your are I, are perfectly capable of building cathedrals and such. The fact that they haven't done so is a historical happenstance. Plunk a Neanderthal in New York City, however, and no matter how nicely you dress him up, he won't be able to trade stocks, much less build a Cathedral. I should also say that the limited capacity of some individuals within the human population due to illness or whatever also doesn't falsify my argument. This is near and dear to my heart, as my youngest son has a serious neurological disorder. The fact that he can't speak because of that disorder doesn't diminish his humanity one bit. The point is that human beings in general have a range of capacities that far, far, far, far exceeds anything the historical record suggests of neanderthals, australopithecines, or any other early hominid. Again, show me a city built by bipedal monkeys, read to me from their literature, explain to me their way of handling the problem of evil or the triune nature of God, and then you might be making a claim. As it is, it seems to me that you have nothing but negative arguments against other people's positions. On 3/16/07, John Burgeson (Burgy) <burgytwo@juno.com> wrote: >>No, the support is that none of these activities, in themselves, are sufficient to consitute the IOG. Are the Neanderthals capable of building cathedrals? Writing something like Dante's Inferno? Assembling choirs and orchestras that could perform Handel's Messiah? It is not merely some limited capability to relate, speak, sing, or worship that constitutes the IOG. It is a concatenation of these and other capabilities producing a synergistic something else that, as far as we can tell from the paleontological and archeological record, all the other hominds lacked. >> Good try. Insufficient. You claim is the the Ns are incapable of X, where X is some particular achievement. By ths criteria, the Aussie aborigines do not have the IOG. If you claim the Ns don't have it and the aborigines do, why? jb www.burgy.50megs.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265

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