Re: [asa] Creation Care

At 02:52 AM 1/20/2007, Michael Roberts wrote:
>Janice,
>
>Pray what was my name calling, except the common
>mis-spelling of our beloved prime minister. ~ Michael

@@@ The point is that if__I __would use the word
"Bliar" in place of Blair - Pim would have one of his selective hissy-fits.

>Or was it Wesley for his interesting medical ideas? ~ Michael

@@@ No. I did find it curious, though, that he
would have used such a vulgar word, so I thought
I'd try and find the source of the quote on the internet.

I could find no source other than you, however
for what you said was Wesley's cure for
TB/Consumption. In fact, I found evidence that
he said that "electricity" was what would cure it. To wit:

The Rev. John Wesley MA (1703-1791) - Pioneer
Electrotherapist: A History of Medicine Study
http://www.toneatronic.com/tone/ems/wesley.php
In summary, the disorders in which electricity
was according to Wesley of unquestionable use, are shown below.

Wesley's (1769) list of disorders treatable with electricity

Agues - (fevers-malaria)

St Anthony's Fire - (Erysipelas)

Blindness, even from a Gutta Serena

Bronchoscope - (goiter)

Chlorosis - (iron-deficiency anemia)

Coldness of the feet - (?Raynaud's syndrome)

Consumption - (tuberculosis)
{snip]

Then I checked Jack Haas' ASA /PSCF article on
Wesley to see if he mentioned any such "cure" in
that. I found nothing other than a comment about
Wesley experimenting on his patients and himself. To wit:

John Wesley's Vision of Science in the Service of Christ J. W. Haas, Jr.*
Gordon College Wenham, MA 01984

[From Prospectives on Science and Christian Faith 47 (December 1995): 234.]
© 1995 Americian Scientific Affiliation
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1995/PSCF12-95Haas.html

Wesley's most enduring scientific interests were
in the medical field. His A Plain Account of the
People Called Methodists claimed "For six or
seven and twenty years, I had made anatomy and
physick the diversion of my leisure
hours." *100 He experimented on his patients
and himself often describing the results in his
Journal. His Primitive Physick or An Easy and
Natural Way of Curing Most Diseases first
published in 1747 went through 23 editions in his
lifetime. This work challenged contemporary
medical practice for its obsession with theory
and lack of interest in developing practical
medical treatment. Wesley's listing of remedies
encouraged experimentation and the use of alternative approaches.

*100 "A Plain Account of a People Called Methodists," 2 (Jackson VIII: 264).
[[ Jackson The Works of John Wesley. Thomas
Jackson, ed. (14 vols.: 3rd ed.). London:
Wesleyan Methodist Book Room, 1872; reprint ed.,
Grand Rapids: Zondervan 1958-1959]]. ~

So maybe you can tell us the source of your
quote, since I've been unable to locate it, myself.

Thanks, ~ Janice

>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:janmatch@earthlink.net>Janice Matchett
>To: <mailto:pvm.pandas@gmail.com>PvM
>Cc: <mailto:dopderbeck@gmail.com>David Opderbeck
>; <mailto:CCarriga@olivet.edu>Charles Carrigan ;
><mailto:michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>Michael
>Roberts ; <mailto:asa@calvin.edu>asa@calvin.edu
>Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [asa] Creation Care
>>
>>May I also ask Janice to refrain from name
>>calling. Such as in the part she quotes [a parrot]. [snip] ~ Pim
>
>@@ You may... although I think you'd be
>embarrassed to be cherry-picking your "outrages" again.
>
>For instance, I didn't see you protesting the
>name-calling Michael engaged in at # 102797 on
>Panda's Thumb. LOL
>http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/05/yet_another_ver.html#comment-102797
>

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Received on Mon Jan 22 00:02:03 2007