RE: [asa] AIG -- Scientists! Give it up!

Hi Vernon:

I have a web site for questions like these. But better you read Keith
Miller's

http://divinity-school.com/archives/article.html?articleid=48

.

Dick Fischer

Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org> www.genesisproclaimed.org

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Vernon Jenkins
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:25 PM
To: Dick Fischer; ASA
Subject: Re: [asa] AIG -- Scientists! Give it up!

Dick,

I've just finished reading "Faith and the Human Genome", and it strikes me
that what you and Francis Collins have in common is a complete disregard for
words spoken by the Lord in his 'Sermon on the Mount'. There he warned his
followers to carefully examine the teaching of any doctrine which threatened
to _counter_ rather than _confirm_ his gospel message. "By their fruits ye
shall know them." / "No man can serve two masters."

Writing to Iain just recently, I suggested that evolution fails these tests
completely - backing up my claim with a selection of its anti-christian
'fruits'. You attest to be 'well-educated' and a man of 'relevant
knowledge'. Let me therefore ask, Where do these significant matters fit
into your scheme of things? - for I'm sure you would agree with me that the
words attributed to our Lord, Saviour and Creator must carry more weight
than all others recorded in the J-C Scriptures.

From what I gather, Jesus Christ was a _creationist_ - even a YEC!!
(Lk.16:31).

Vernon

----- Original Message -----

From: Dick <mailto:dickfischer@verizon.net> Fischer

To: ASA <mailto:asa@calvin.edu>

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:46 PM

Subject: RE: [asa] AIG -- Scientists! Give it up!

Hi Iain, you wrote:

>>I disagree totally with your position.<<

That's what we do on this list.

>>Creationists as paid assassins??? What on earth are you talking about?<<

Jim Jones fed his congregation spiked Kool-Aid. They drank it and died.
What kind words can we say about Jim Jones? We can have pity for the duped
congregation, but Jones was culpable. My indignation is aimed at the ring
leaders who I'll leave unnamed, but one of them died recently.

>>Yes, they're deluded, I'll agree to that. So was I but I didn't allow
myself to be for very long.<<

I have no quarrel with those who because of lack of relevant knowledge get
caught up in YEC. When they get to heaven, who'll care? It's the untold
millions who think the Bible is incredible because YECs have sold them the
same bill of goods - that's who I care for. I was lucky having been saved
when I was in my forties, well-educated, and not so susceptible to YEC
propaganda. But I could have lost my new-found faith had I not persevered
and looked hard for better answers. Many others would have just bailed out
all together, I almost did.

>> But I've known a close colleague who was a sincere creationist & there's
no way I'd call him a charlatan, or a "paid up assassin".<<

Nor would I. There are probably less than a score of individuals who could
qualify for a custom-made millstone for their scrawny necks. But God is the
judge of that, not you or I.

Dick Fischer

Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org> www.genesisproclaimed.org

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