Re: [asa] AIG -- Scientists! Give it up!

From: Vernon Jenkins <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net>
Date: Mon Jul 24 2006 - 18:24:52 EDT

Dick,

I've just finished reading "Faith and the Human Genome", and it strikes me that what you and Francis Collins have in common is a complete disregard for words spoken by the Lord in his 'Sermon on the Mount'. There he warned his followers to carefully examine the teaching of any doctrine which threatened to _counter_ rather than _confirm_ his gospel message. "By their fruits ye shall know them." / "No man can serve two masters."

Writing to Iain just recently, I suggested that evolution fails these tests completely - backing up my claim with a selection of its anti-christian 'fruits'. You attest to be 'well-educated' and a man of 'relevant knowledge'. Let me therefore ask, Where do these significant matters fit into your scheme of things? - for I'm sure you would agree with me that the words attributed to our Lord, Saviour and Creator must carry more weight than all others recorded in the J-C Scriptures.

From what I gather, Jesus Christ was a _creationist_ - even a YEC!! (Lk.16:31).

Vernon

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dick Fischer
  To: ASA
  Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:46 PM
  Subject: RE: [asa] AIG -- Scientists! Give it up!

  Hi Iain, you wrote:

>>I disagree totally with your position.<<

  That's what we do on this list.

>>Creationists as paid assassins??? What on earth are you talking about?<<

  Jim Jones fed his congregation spiked Kool-Aid. They drank it and died. What kind words can we say about Jim Jones? We can have pity for the duped congregation, but Jones was culpable. My indignation is aimed at the ring leaders who I'll leave unnamed, but one of them died recently.

>>Yes, they're deluded, I'll agree to that. So was I but I didn't allow myself to be for very long.<<

  I have no quarrel with those who because of lack of relevant knowledge get caught up in YEC. When they get to heaven, who'll care? It's the untold millions who think the Bible is incredible because YECs have sold them the same bill of goods - that's who I care for. I was lucky having been saved when I was in my forties, well-educated, and not so susceptible to YEC propaganda. But I could have lost my new-found faith had I not persevered and looked hard for better answers. Many others would have just bailed out all together, I almost did.

>> But I've known a close colleague who was a sincere creationist & there's no way I'd call him a charlatan, or a "paid up assassin".<<

  Nor would I. There are probably less than a score of individuals who could qualify for a custom-made millstone for their scrawny necks. But God is the judge of that, not you or I.

  Dick Fischer

  Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

  Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

  www.genesisproclaimed.org

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