Re: No more political propaganda on ASA please !! (was Re: Fw: Get to know a ...)

At 09:54 AM 3/23/2006, Carol or John Burgeson wrote:

>Thank you, Iain, for researching this. ~ jb

@ Will I get any thanks for researching some tip-of-the-iceberg
links to the left-wing political opinions and websites that have been
posted on the ASA list for many years?

"...Perhaps the best way to illustrate Clinton's thinking is to lift
a few quotations. Speaking of professor Quigley, an admired college
professor, he wrote: "His second lasting insight concerned the key to
the greatness of Western civilization, and its continuing capacity
for reform and renewal. He said our civilization's success is rooted
in unique religious and philosophical convictions: that man is
basically good.. ...." Relive the 90s with this book [MY LIFE, by
Bill Clinton] . It reads well. ~ John W.
Burgeson http://www.burgy.50megs.com/bill.htm

"Science & faith are necessarily entwined with politics." ~ Either
Carol or John Burgeson - Tue Nov 30 2004 - 16:27:41 EST
http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200411/0222.html

Re: 9/11 terrorist apologistics:

  "..why are we hated? While "Osama bin Laden and his ilk do not in
any way represent normal forms of behavioral resistance to those
policies of ours that are disliked," the fact remains that there are
a lot of people who would not take violent action against us who
still hate us. Why is that?.." ~ Cheers. John Burgeson (Burgy) Thu
Sep 20 2001 - 10:26:20 EDT http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200109/0184.html

"...This kind of garbage is ,,, the result of mendacity and a
determination to interpret everything the US does in the worst
possible light. To take one example from his long list, people like
this regarded the invasion of Grenada, incredibly, as an act of
aggression. The simple fact is that a handful of thugs murdered most
of the government of Grenada. The US went in and removed them from
power, returned control of Grenada to its people, and then poured in
financial aid. The press tried its best to ignore the fact that the
people of Grenada almost uniformly welcomed the U.S. action. Those
who call themselves "liberals" maintained that we should have let
them "work it out on their own" and similar nonsense. If I am flat on
my back in my house facing an armed intruder, and you are my
neighbor, I hope you won't wait for an engraved invitation to come
over and help me.

One of my favorite historians remarked that the essence of
geopolitics is making distinctions between different degrees of evil.
International politics is a rough game, with some very bad actors
always included. There are times when military action, crude
instrument that it is, is the least of the available evils. To refuse
to acknowledge this,
maintaining the moral equivalence of all the players, or worse, to
assert that the U.S., acting in our fumbling way to defend democracy
and legitimate liberty, is somehow the worst
because it is the most powerful, is not the road to the high moral
ground - it is the road to the lowest moral ground of all. The
European press is full of this kind of garbage, and I find it
sickening." ~ Preston G. Tue Sep 18 2001 - 20:24:36
EDT http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200109/0165.html

"..Bush has many ties to the radical right. That may explain why he
does not engage his brain very often.
See: www.burgy.50megs.com/ties.txt ~ jb - Sat 10/9/2004 4:47 PM
http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200410/0148.html

"..Perhaps I am "left," I know that I am a "liberal." I define that
word as Walter Cronkite does, in these words: "I do not consider a
liberal necessarily to be a leftist. A liberal to me is one who ...
is unbeholden to any specific belief or party or group or person, but
makes up his or her mind on the basis of the facts and the
presentation of the facts at the time. That defines who I am. I have
never voted a party line. I vote on the individual and the issues."
-- Walter Cronkite, interview in TIME magazine, 11/3/2003, page 8." ~
Burgy - Friday, October 15, 2004 12:23
PM http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200410/0248.html

"..This isn't to say that I'm going to vote for GWB: I'm not. But
just on the issue of abortion his position has more substance than
that of the man I will vote for - a man whose own religious tradition
gives him little excuse for the position he takes." ~ Shalom
George Sat Oct 09 2004 - 14:42:37
EDT http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200410/0141.html

~ Janice --- who has been lurking on the ASA list for lots of years
before joining it. :)
Received on Thu Mar 23 11:06:52 2006