Re: have we forgotten who the enemy is?

Glenn
Consider yourself rebuked!! Vernon some of us are sick and tired of YEC
distortion and misrepresentation and your superspiritual hypocrisy accusing
others of denying Christ and not fighting against the devil. I dont need
someone like you who is blind to truth to point me to Ephesians 6.

When YECs cease from distortion and name-calling I might begin to listen to
them. I am afraid they are a bigger obstacle to the spreading of the Gospel
than Richard Dawkins

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vernon Jenkins" <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net>
To: "Glenn Morton" <glennmorton@entouch.net>; "'Lawrence Johnston'"
<johnston@uidaho.edu>; <asa@calvin.edu>; "'jack syme'"
<drsyme@cablespeed.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: have we forgotten who the enemy is?

> Glenn, are you really completely immune to my recent observations on the
now
> manifest frailty of the scientific enterprise - particularly as it relates
> to the progressive undermining of God's revealed word?
>
> Vernon
> www.otherbiblecode.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Morton" <glennmorton@entouch.net>
> To: "'Lawrence Johnston'" <johnston@uidaho.edu>; <asa@calvin.edu>; "'jack
> syme'" <drsyme@cablespeed.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:35 AM
> Subject: RE: have we forgotten who the enemy is?
>
>
> > Feb 17,2005
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> >> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Lawrence Johnston
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:52 AM
> >> To: asa@calvin.edu; jack syme
> >> Subject: Re: have we forgotten who the enemy is?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, fellow Citizens of the Kingdom of God (and seekers!)
> >>
> >> I really appreciate Jack's starting this thread, in a very
> >> revealing way.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jack Syme wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not sure why the discussion on this list is always so negative
> > against
> >> both ID and YEC. IMO in the big picture, this battle is a minor one.

> > The
> >> most important belief that we all have, and share with our
> > creationist
> >> brothers, is the Gospel. Most evangelical Christians dont really
> > care that
> >> much about the creation/evolution issue, knowing Christ is much more
> >> important.
> >>
> >> It seems to me that we are losing sight of the real enemy, which is
> >> philosophical materialism, atheistic naturalism. We should be
> > reaching out
> >> to scientist non believers, and showing them that the Bible, and
> > science are
> >> compatible. This issue is more about apologetics than polemics.
> >
> > I will tell both of you why this issue is important. If you ever go on a
> > field trip with geologists (real ones, not the ICR pseudo-rock docs) and
> > listen to the geologist's comments about the creationists and what they
> > teach, you will quickly find that it is almost impossible to share the
> > gospel with these people because of the idiocy of the young-earth
> > position. I have seen this type of situation. One geologist will say,
> > "look at all those burrows, they were deposited as they are in one
> > single year!" and everyone hoots and hollers, laughing. Some one will
> > then chime in, "Halleluyah, right on brother!" More laughter. When a
> > radio preacher comes on the radio saying false and slanderous things
> > about geologist and biologists and how one can't be a christian and
> > believe in evolution, the derision starts. "Hey can you believe how dumb
> > you have to be to be a christian?" "Yeah, they are born with only a
> > brainstem," "Yep, that is the religious part of the brain!" Such
> > things make it very very difficult to share the gospel. Who wants to
> > be as stupid as these YEC guys? Y'all live in your nice non-geological
> > world and such things are mere abstractions to you. They are the
> > reality I see.
> >
> > To you it is a minor thing. In my profession, YEC and even ID with some
> > of their nonsense, are huge blocks to the gospel.
> >
> >
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Received on Fri Feb 18 02:43:27 2005