Re: Dick Fisher's "historical basis" remains no less doubtful

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed Nov 17 2004 - 20:02:28 EST

Jack Syme wrote:

>I am trying not to be so dense about this, sorry.

If it was easy it wouldn't have taken so long to figure out.

> I am not sure I agree, but I understand, I think, what you are saying
> about the covenant people. In the Old Covenant, you had to be an Adamite,
> i.e. one of the chosen people, "part of the covenant line" to be eligible
> for redemption. And after Christ this became available to all who believe
> "neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free...".

Essentially, that is how I understand it. A specially created man appearing
in the Neolithic Period and thrust into a population of hominids who are
genetically connected to creatures more hairy and have been around for a few
million years cannot be the father to us all. That's a reality He can only
be a father to some. Unless, of course, there was no Adam at all, or Adam
appeared far earlier in time and had normal parents.

> It is how you use the phrase "image of God" that I have issues with. So,
> are you saying that the other humans that existed outside of Adam's line
> were not made in the image of God? And are you saying that those outside
> of the Body of Christ not made in the image of God? Are you equating the
> "image of God" with redemption, or at least being part of the covenant?

> If that is what you are saying, I had not thought of "image of God" that
> way before. I had always considered it the characteristic, whatever it
> is, that makes us different than animals.

How could it mean anything special for Paul to tell us that Christ was in
the image of God if every human being from the dawn of humanity was born
with the image of God? It would say nothing about the uniqueness of Christ.
The "image" has to have something more special about it then just to signify
that we are different from animals.

Plus, I don't think Moses or anyone else living at that time had any idea
where human beings came from. They were just here. So Moses started with
the only man he know about and from which the covenant race derived. And if
Adam was a representative of God, then he had to have an audience. You
can't be a pastor without a congregation.

Dick Fischer - Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
www.genesisproclaimed.org
Received on Wed Nov 17 20:09:00 2004

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