Re: Academics who actively support Young Earth Creationism

From: Vernon Jenkins (vernon.jenkins@virgin.net)
Date: Mon Oct 27 2003 - 17:55:38 EST

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    Thank you, Michael! You take me back to my early school days with your
    clever one-liners.

    One of the difficulties we YECs on this list encounter is that whereas
    everyone is aware of our complete committment to the Word of God, we on the
    other hand can only guess at the particular degrees of committment of
    others. Michael, as a man of the cloth, you can undoubtedly help us bridge
    this divide. So may I begin by asking what the words of Eph.6:11-17 mean for
    you? And, in particular, what you understand by the 'sword of the Spirit'
    being the 'word of God'?

    Vernon
    http://www.otherbiblecode.com

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
    To: "Vernon Jenkins" <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net>; "gordon brown"
    <gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu>; <douglas.hayworth@perbio.com>
    Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:21 AM
    Subject: Re: Academics who actively support Young Earth Creationism

    > Insects have four legs according to the Bible.
    >
    > Vernon could you please write in Welsh it would make more sense.
    >
    > Michael
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Vernon Jenkins" <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net>
    > To: "gordon brown" <gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu>;
    > <douglas.hayworth@perbio.com>
    > Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:20 AM
    > Subject: Re: Academics who actively support Young Earth Creationism
    >
    >
    > > Hi Gordon,
    > >
    > > I read in the Hebrew of Gen.2:5 that the pristine earth experienced no
    > rain;
    > > and in 2:6, a brief reference to the alternative hydrologic cycle that
    > then
    > > obtained. Later, following the Mabbul, I find reference to the covenant
    of
    > > the rainbow - the reasonable inference being that this was a novelty; a
    > > complete surprise to Noah and his family. Yet you say, "It is very
    > > discouraging that certain pastors whose ministry has so much to commend
    it
    > > and who have influence over so many people prefer to get their teachings
    > on
    > > certain issues from Henry Morris rather than by careful study of the
    > > Scripture."
    > >
    > > But, Gordon, where else in Scripture should one look for a clear
    > refutation
    > > of these matching statements? And what motive could the writer
    (presumably
    > > Noah) possibly have for attempting to deceive us all?
    > >
    > > Vernon
    > >
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "gordon brown" <gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu>
    > > To: <douglas.hayworth@perbio.com>
    > > Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:26 PM
    > > Subject: Re: Academics who actively support Young Earth Creationism
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 douglas.hayworth@perbio.com wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > We run up against YEC-type "literalism" in so many places. For
    > example,
    > > I'm
    > > > > currently leading a group bible study here at work, going through
    Rick
    > > > > Warren's _Purpose-Driven Life_. Although I agree with the _overall_
    > > > > theology of the book, there are snippets of poor interpretation. For
    > > > > example, in describing the story of Noah as an illustration of one
    who
    > > > > pleased God because he believed and obeyed him, Warren writes the
    > > > > following:
    > > > >
    > > > > "There were three problems that could have caused Noah to doubt.
    > First,
    > > > > Noah had never seen rain, because prior to the Flood, God irrigated
    > the
    > > > > earth from the ground up (Genesis 2:5-6)."
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > It is very discouraging that certain pastors whose ministry has so
    much
    > to
    > > > commend it and who have influence over so many people prefer to get
    > their
    > > > teachings on certain issues from Henry Morris rather than by careful
    > study
    > > > of the Scripture.
    > > >
    > > > Gordon Brown
    > > > Department of Mathematics
    > > > University of Colorado
    > > > Boulder, CO 80309-0395
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >



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