From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Wed Oct 15 2003 - 17:52:22 EDT
I am simply unable to follow any of your arguments, except that you are
simply unable to even consider the possibility that you dont know any
geology or rather understand geology.
Michael
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From: "allenroy" <allenroy@peoplepc.com>
To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Cc: "asa" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: extra stuff
> Michael Roberts wrote:
>
> > The problem is that the geological column is basically the same
throughout
> > the world. I am personally familiar with it in the Grand Canyon, Black
Hills
> > UK the Alps . Italy and South Africa. Others have found and seen that it
is
> > the same elsewhere.
>
> At Grand Canyon, the geologic record shows a paraconformity [meaning, the
> contact is not visible or there is no evidence of erosion, w/ages
differences
> defined by fossils] between the Muav Limestone and the Redwall limestone
where
> 100 million years of the Geologic Column are missing. S. Beus says that
"the
> unconformity [paraconformity], even though representing more than 100
million
> years can be difficult to locate" (Beus, SS, 1990, Temple Butte Formation.
In
> Beaus SS, Morales M, eds. 1990. Grand Canyon Geology, Oxford University
Press, p
> 107-117.)
>
> Also, "the location of the boundary between the Manakach and Wescogami
> formations [a 14 million year paraconformity] can be difficult to
determine,
> both from a distance and from a close range." (Blakey RS. 1990. Supai
group and
> Hermit formations. in Grand Canyon Geology [see above] p 147-182).
>
> This illustrates how imaginary the Geologic Column is, and illustrates the
> difference between the Geologic Record at Grand Canyon and the supposed
Geologic
> Column.
>
> You will note [below] that I did not say Geologic Column was not generally
the
> same from place to place, but that the Geologic Record is not the same
from
> place to place. The Geologic Record (the formations what you actually see
and
> find) at Grand Canyon is not the same record as found in other places even
> across the USA. So one would not expect to find the geologic record of a
> location in Africa, or Asia, or Australia to be the same. It's the
imaginary
> Geologic Column which people claim to find all over the world.
>
> > > And, Creationists do not, in general, propose that the geologic record
in,
> > say,
> > Grand Canyon, is going to be the same as in Africa, Asia or Australia.
>
> Allen
>
>
>
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