From: Hauslein, Patricia L. (hauslein@stcloudstate.edu)
Date: Wed Jul 16 2003 - 21:35:05 EDT
Hi folks - I heard Colson's "Breakpoint" all about the ASA meeting the =
other day. It distrubs me however that he can extoll the sciences of =
cosmology and astrology as such good science in line with his "Christian =
World View", yet denouce the same sciecne that supports human evolution =
by natural selection. That kind of thinking is the same which picks and =
chooses which parts of the Bible to use to support one opinion while =
ignoring parts which refute it.
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I encourage you to listen to it from the website (see below). =20
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Pat
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Patricia Hauslein, Ph.D. =
Hauslein@StCloudState.edu
Assoc. Prof. Biology 320.255.3005
Saint Cloud State University
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From: Don Munro [mailto:don@asa3.org]=20
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I thought that many of you might like to see ASA's second recognition =
in Breakpoint which just came out this morning. The thanks for this are =
to David Fisher. It should be a great meeting.
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Don Munro, Executive Director
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Subject: BreakPoint: Two Heavenly Subjects, 07/14/2003
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BreakPoint with Charles Colson
Commentary #030714 - 07/14/2003
Two Heavenly Subjects
Linking Science and Faith
To hear some people tell it, the world has two mutually exclusive groups =
of people=97Christians and scientists. Christians are allegedly too =
closed-minded to embrace science, and scientists are far too smart to =
become Christians.=20
That false impression deters some scientists from seriously considering =
the Christian faith, and it discourages many Christians from entering =
scientific professions. It also discourages Christians who are =
scientists from being vocal about their faith.=20
If you have this kind of intellectual conflict, you can advance to =
"higher ground" this summer. Colorado Christian University will host =
hundreds of scientifically knowledgeable Christians the last weekend of =
July at the American Scientific Affiliation's annual meeting. Plenary =
sessions will orbit around astronomy and exalt God as Creator.=20
Leadoff speaker Deborah Haarsma will project visuals from the Hubble =
Deep Space Telescope. With a Ph.D. from M.I.T., she says even =
non-Christians see wonder and awe in the astronomical universe, but =
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Several speakers understand from first-hand experience where many =
listeners may stand. As an undergraduate, Dr. William Keel says he was =
"a practicing agnostic." After substantial study of the subject, =
however, he realized that numerous intricacies in nature fit together so =
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Dr. Alan Stockton remembers the research that convinced him "that one =
could be a Christian without having to keep agonizing that one was on =
the verge of intellectual suicide." He found reading C. S. Lewis and N. =
T. Wright especially helpful.=20
The late Nobel laureate Paul Dirac agreed, stating, "God used beautiful =
mathematics in creating the world." Contemporary astronomer Allan =
Sandage, Edwin Hubble's successor at Mt. Wilson and Mt. Palomar =
observatories, asked why the world was describable in terms of =
differential equations. And he told the New York Times, "I find it quite =
improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some =
organizing principle. God, to me, =85 is the explanation of the miracle =
of existence, why there is something instead of nothing." On another =
occasion, Sandage said, "If God did not exist, science would have to =
invent Him to explain what it is discovering at its core."
Astronomy isn't all you'll find at the conference next month. Sessions =
include discussions of biblical perspectives on genetic engineering and =
other bioethics issues, the relationship between Scripture and =
discovery, and whether or not Earth is the only inhabited planet.=20
One man who has attended most of these meetings for over half a century =
noted that for him the great thrill is "to worship and argue with peers =
for whom I have the utmost respect; to subject my ideas to criticism in =
an atmosphere of trust; and just to have fun with a crowd of joyfully =
serious followers of Jesus. There's nothing quite like it."
If you and a friend want to be encouraged by biblical truth and science =
reinforced in an atmosphere that respects mind and spirit, call us here =
at BreakPoint (1-877-3-CALLBP) for more information about the conference =
or how you can obtain materials that will be available afterwards. This =
summer you can meet hundreds of scientists who are solid =
Christians=97men and women who are integrating modern scientific =
discovery with a biblical worldview.
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* Learn more about the American Scientific Affiliation =
<http://www.asa3.org/> .=20
* "Astronomical Stars Converge on Colorado =
<http://www.asa3.org/ASA/newsletter/mayjun03.pdf> ," Newsletter of the =
American Scientific Affiliation 45, no. 3 (May/June 2003). (Adobe =
Acrobat Reader <http://www.adobe.com/> required.)=20
* See the 2003 ASA annual meeting brochure =
<http://www.asa3.org/ASA/meetings/CCU2003/CCU_brochure.pdf> and meeting =
schedule =
<http://www.asa3.org/ASA/meetings/CCU2003/CCU_tentative_schedule.pdf> . =
(Adobe Acrobat Reader <http://www.adobe.com/> required.)=20
* Read highlights of last year's Annual Meeting =
<http://www.asa3.org/ASA/newsletter/SEPOCT02.htm> from the Newsletter =
of the American Scientific Affiliation.=20
* See samples from last year's Annual Meeting, "Christians Pioneers in =
Science": Photos and audio from selected sessions =
<http://www.asa3.org/ASA/meetings/Pepperdine2002/> and abstracts from =
the 2002 Annual Meeting =
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* Deborah Haarsma, "The Heavens Declare the Immensity of God =
<http://www.calvin.edu/~dhaarsma/chapel.00Nov.htm> ," Calvin College, 16 =
November 2000.=20
* William R. Shea, "Reading God's Two Books =
<http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2003/002/14.30.html> ," Books & =
Culture, March/April 2003.=20
* See this review <http://www.asa3.org/ASA/whatsnew/Hearn =
Advt/index.html> of Walter R. Hearn's book Being a Christian in =
Science.=20
* Al Dobras, "It's All about Luck =
<http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/OnlineFea=
tures/Its+All+about+Luck.htm> ," BreakPoint Online, 7 April 2003.=20
* William A. Dembski, "Skepticism's Prospects for Unseating Intelligent =
Design =
<http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/OnlineFea=
tures/Skepticisms+Prospects+for+Unseating+Intelligent+Design.htm> ," =
BreakPoint Online, 24 June 2002.=20
* Robert Newman, "From One Heavenly Subject to Another,"
chapter in Eric =
C. Barrett and David Fisher, Scientists Who Believe =
<https://www.pfmonline.net/str_donation.taf?Site=3DBP_Item&Item_Code=3DBK=
SWB> (Chicago: Moody Press, 1984).=20
* Fred Heeren, Show Me God: What the Message from Space Is Telling Us =
about God =
<http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=3D17-1885849524-0> =
(Daystar Productions, 1997).=20
* BreakPoint Commentary No. 020626, "The Malibu Antidote: Christianity =
and Science at the Beach =
<http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/BreakPoin=
tCommentaries/The+Malibu+Antidote.htm> ."=20
* BreakPoint Commentary No. 020830, "Wagging the Dog: The Invented War =
between Science and Christianity =
<http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/BreakPoin=
tCommentaries/Wagging+the+Dog.htm> ."=20
* John Noble Wilford, "Sizing Up the Cosmos: An Astronomer's Quest," =
(interview with Allan R. Sandage), New York Times, 12 March 1991, B5-9.=20
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