From: Debbie Mann (deborahjmann@insightbb.com)
Date: Thu Jul 17 2003 - 13:54:39 EDT
Don't forget II Timothy 2 which states that we are to flee youthful lusts - but if we don't we can still be used as vessels, though not the more honorable kind.
I think this again differentiates between perfect and admissable.
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Subject: Re: Sin?
In a message dated 7/16/03 8:47:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sbrasile@hotmail.com writes:
Rich,
Exactly! Don and others are forgetting about the FIRST commandment; love,
honor and obey God. Jesus put it this way, "'Love the Lord your God with all
your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all
your mind'"
We love God first and foremost, if we love him... we obey him. How can we
love Him if we don't obey him? He said not to indulge in homosexuality, so
how can we truly love him if we disobey his commands?
You cannot ignore this love-obedience relationship then skip right to "agape
love" between two humans makes an abomination into a beautiful thing.
sondra,
I have to agree with you.
There are no loopholes - if we do not obey God, (even the Levitical prohibitions the liberal agenda would discard), we embrace death, not life. The Lord said he who keeps my commandments will have life through them and that is literally true - a quick sociological survey of Lev. 19 reveals the prohibited practices bring death and social disintegration. Doing God's will brings life and social cohesion. But the pragmatics of religious devotion are lost when people are busy trying to make the texts conform to their desires. In your superbly chosen quote I see we are expected to love God with heart, soul, strength, mind - but body is not mentioned. Body is mastered and denied at will with all the strength of the heart, the soul, the mind.
“This is why the Father loves me, because I lay down my life in order to take it up again. No one takes it from me but I lay it down on my own. I have power to lay it down and power to take it up again. This command I have received from my Father (John 10:17).”
rich
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