From: Jay Willingham (jaywillingham@cfl.rr.com)
Date: Fri Jul 18 2003 - 11:58:26 EDT
He, like scientists, approves of hypotheses with which he agrees.
Jay Willingham
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From: "Hauslein, Patricia L. " <hauslein@stcloudstate.edu>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: BreakPoint: Two Heavenly Subjects, 07/14/2003
> Hi folks - I heard Colson's "Breakpoint" all about the ASA meeting the =
> other day. It distrubs me however that he can extoll the sciences of =
> cosmology and astrology as such good science in line with his "Christian =
> World View", yet denouce the same sciecne that supports human evolution =
> by natural selection. That kind of thinking is the same which picks and =
> chooses which parts of the Bible to use to support one opinion while =
> ignoring parts which refute it.
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> I encourage you to listen to it from the website (see below). =20
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> Pat
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> Patricia Hauslein, Ph.D. =
> Hauslein@StCloudState.edu
> Assoc. Prof. Biology 320.255.3005
> Saint Cloud State University
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> I thought that many of you might like to see ASA's second recognition =
> in Breakpoint which just came out this morning. The thanks for this are =
> to David Fisher. It should be a great meeting.
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> Don Munro, Executive Director
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> BreakPoint with Charles Colson
> Commentary #030714 - 07/14/2003
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> Two Heavenly Subjects
> Linking Science and Faith
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> To hear some people tell it, the world has two mutually exclusive groups =
> of people=97Christians and scientists. Christians are allegedly too =
> closed-minded to embrace science, and scientists are far too smart to =
> become Christians.=20
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> That false impression deters some scientists from seriously considering =
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> scientific professions. It also discourages Christians who are =
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> If you have this kind of intellectual conflict, you can advance to =
> "higher ground" this summer. Colorado Christian University will host =
> hundreds of scientifically knowledgeable Christians the last weekend of =
> July at the American Scientific Affiliation's annual meeting. Plenary =
> sessions will orbit around astronomy and exalt God as Creator.=20
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> Leadoff speaker Deborah Haarsma will project visuals from the Hubble =
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> Several speakers understand from first-hand experience where many =
> listeners may stand. As an undergraduate, Dr. William Keel says he was =
> "a practicing agnostic." After substantial study of the subject, =
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> harmoniously that "it all fairly screams [of] an overarching design."=20
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> Dr. Alan Stockton remembers the research that convinced him "that one =
> could be a Christian without having to keep agonizing that one was on =
> the verge of intellectual suicide." He found reading C. S. Lewis and N. =
> T. Wright especially helpful.=20
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> The late Nobel laureate Paul Dirac agreed, stating, "God used beautiful =
> mathematics in creating the world." Contemporary astronomer Allan =
> Sandage, Edwin Hubble's successor at Mt. Wilson and Mt. Palomar =
> observatories, asked why the world was describable in terms of =
> differential equations. And he told the New York Times, "I find it quite =
> improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some =
> organizing principle. God, to me, =85 is the explanation of the miracle =
> of existence, why there is something instead of nothing." On another =
> occasion, Sandage said, "If God did not exist, science would have to =
> invent Him to explain what it is discovering at its core."
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> Astronomy isn't all you'll find at the conference next month. Sessions =
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> One man who has attended most of these meetings for over half a century =
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> serious followers of Jesus. There's nothing quite like it."
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> * Learn more about the American Scientific Affiliation =
> <http://www.asa3.org/> .=20
> * "Astronomical Stars Converge on Colorado =
> <http://www.asa3.org/ASA/newsletter/mayjun03.pdf> ," Newsletter of the =
> American Scientific Affiliation 45, no. 3 (May/June 2003). (Adobe =
> Acrobat Reader <http://www.adobe.com/> required.)=20
> * See the 2003 ASA annual meeting brochure =
> <http://www.asa3.org/ASA/meetings/CCU2003/CCU_brochure.pdf> and meeting =
> schedule =
> <http://www.asa3.org/ASA/meetings/CCU2003/CCU_tentative_schedule.pdf> . =
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> <http://www.asa3.org/ASA/newsletter/SEPOCT02.htm> from the Newsletter =
> of the American Scientific Affiliation.=20
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> <http://www.asa3.org/ASA/meetings/Pepperdine2002/pepperdine-abstracts.pdf=
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> * Deborah Haarsma, "The Heavens Declare the Immensity of God =
> <http://www.calvin.edu/~dhaarsma/chapel.00Nov.htm> ," Calvin College, 16 =
> November 2000.=20
> * William R. Shea, "Reading God's Two Books =
> <http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2003/002/14.30.html> ," Books & =
> Culture, March/April 2003.=20
> * See this review <http://www.asa3.org/ASA/whatsnew/Hearn =
> Advt/index.html> of Walter R. Hearn's book Being a Christian in =
> Science.=20
> * Al Dobras, "It's All about Luck =
> <http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/OnlineFea=
> tures/Its+All+about+Luck.htm> ," BreakPoint Online, 7 April 2003.=20
> * William A. Dembski, "Skepticism's Prospects for Unseating Intelligent =
> Design =
> <http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/OnlineFea=
> tures/Skepticisms+Prospects+for+Unseating+Intelligent+Design.htm> ," =
> BreakPoint Online, 24 June 2002.=20
> * Robert Newman, "From One Heavenly Subject to Another,"
> chapter in Eric =
> C. Barrett and David Fisher, Scientists Who Believe =
> <https://www.pfmonline.net/str_donation.taf?Site=3DBP_Item&Item_Code=3DBK=
> SWB> (Chicago: Moody Press, 1984).=20
> * Fred Heeren, Show Me God: What the Message from Space Is Telling Us =
> about God =
> <http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=3D17-1885849524-0> =
> (Daystar Productions, 1997).=20
> * BreakPoint Commentary No. 020626, "The Malibu Antidote: Christianity =
> and Science at the Beach =
> <http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/BreakPoin=
> tCommentaries/The+Malibu+Antidote.htm> ."=20
> * BreakPoint Commentary No. 020830, "Wagging the Dog: The Invented War =
> between Science and Christianity =
> <http://www.breakpoint.org/Breakpoint/ChannelRoot/FeaturesGroup/BreakPoin=
> tCommentaries/Wagging+the+Dog.htm> ."=20
> * John Noble Wilford, "Sizing Up the Cosmos: An Astronomer's Quest," =
> (interview with Allan R. Sandage), New York Times, 12 March 1991, B5-9.=20
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