From: RFaussette@aol.com
Date: Wed Jul 09 2003 - 09:15:07 EDT
In a message dated 7/8/03 10:29:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gmurphy@raex.com
writes:
> The argument is quite simple. If the ONLY thing wrong with homosexual
> behavior
> is that it does not lead to offspring, then there is nothing wrong with it
> as long as
> the person who engages in such behavior also has heterosexual intercourse in
> order to
> have offspring. I do not agree with the conclusion because I don't agree
> with the major
> premise. But the argument itself is very clear.
>
> Shalom,
> George
>
>
>
For the record, that is not the ONLY thing wrong with homosexual behavior,
but that is the major thing. Homosexuality dilutes the traditional family
structure. Homosexual sub-culture spread by the media teaches our children to
abandon the Levitical prohibitions and organized homosexuals attack the traditional
established churches because they say the churches are the reason for hatred
against homosexuals. Not so. George does not look at the real world in fornt
of him when he responds to me. I have seen the homosexual sub-culture first
hand in NYC and it is not pretty.
The catholic church pedophilia scandal is caused by homosexuals, not
pedophiles. I volunteered in a catholic parish for 8 years and have seen the damage
homosexuals are doing to the religious orders, particularly here in America.
Many homosexuals become priests for the "life style" (that term specifically
given to me by a 75 year old Carmelite monk - who should know) - the parishioners
fawn over them, constantly give them gifts, but I can't respect a priest who
becomes a priest for the comfortable life style in which he can practice his
homosexuality in comfort because its simply not religious.
George says, that according to my argument it's OK to be a homosexual as
long as you procreate heterosexually, but my position is that if you can control
your sex drive, you are doing what Jesus did, which is to discipline the
body. Discipline and mastery over the body IS the essence of personal religion and
the self sacrifice. George says cheating is OK. I suggest cheating is OK
rhetorically, but cheating to satisfy the body's sex drive is still not religion.
To me, george is arguing that the sex drive should rule. I am arguing that
religious self discipline should rule. My quote regarding the Jews of eastern
europe was a historical example of the kind of displacement that occurs when one
community observes the Levitical prohibitions and another does not.
George has repeatedly ignoreed my point that you either succumb to the sex
drive or succumb to religion (as in Judaism and Christianity or even
zoroastrianism)
but you can't do both...
That argument is crystal clear.
rich faussette
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