From: Debbie Mann (deborahjmann@insightbb.com)
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 20:35:40 EDT
I'd say we've fully swarmed the earth.
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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
Behalf Of George Murphy
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 7:06 PM
To: RFaussette@aol.com
Cc: jbembe@hotmail.com; gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: Sin?
RFaussette@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/6/03 6:16:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jbembe@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > I think this is the core of the question. Is the act of homosexuality a
> > conditional sin, or always sin? The bible forbids murder, but killing
men
> > is not an absolute sin, in the condition of war or self defence it is
not
> > morally wrong. The real question is whether other "sins" like
homosexuality
> > depend on certain conditions. I would not be on the side of advising
people
> > to engage in homosexuality under any condition. Luckily the bible
informs
> > us that God is a fair and righteous judge.
> >
> >
> >
>
> "You must be fruitful and increase, swarm throughout the earth and rule
over
> it" genesis 9:7.
>
> If you were to obey that command "religiously," no conditions apply.
> Homosexuality would always be a sin. Once you set conditions, your
obedience to that
> command would be conditional and NOT religious, since having sex for the
sake
> of sex does not bear fruit.
> My argument is not that homosexuals should be killed or ostracized, as is
> often suggested when I support the religious argument, but simply that it
is not
> a religious behavior... end of story.
>
> rich faussette
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> In a message dated 7/6/03 6:16:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jbembe@hotmail.com writes:
>
> I think this is the core of the question. Is the act of
> homosexuality a
> conditional sin, or always sin? The bible forbids murder,
> but killing men
> is not an absolute sin, in the condition of war or self
> defence it is not
> morally wrong. The real question is whether other "sins"
> like homosexuality
> depend on certain conditions. I would not be on the side of
> advising people
> to engage in homosexuality under any condition. Luckily the
> bible informs
> us that God is a fair and righteous judge.
>
> "You must be fruitful and increase, swarm throughout the earth and
> rule over it" genesis 9:7.
>
> If you were to obey that command "religiously," no conditions apply.
> Homosexuality would always be a sin. Once you set conditions, your
> obedience to that command would be conditional and NOT religious,
> since having sex for the sake of sex does not bear fruit.
> My argument is not that homosexuals should be killed or ostracized, as
> is often suggested when I support the religious argument, but simply
> that it is not a religious behavior... end of story.
If failure to be fruitful & increase is the problem with homosexual
activity
then presumably then it is not sinful for a bisexual person to engage in
heterosexual
intercourse for reproductive purposes and in homosexual behavior for other
reasons.
Shalom,
George
George L. Murphy
gmurphy@raex.com
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
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