Re: Sin?

From: George Murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 20:06:02 EDT

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    RFaussette@aol.com wrote:
    >
    > In a message dated 7/6/03 6:16:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    > jbembe@hotmail.com writes:
    >
    > > I think this is the core of the question. Is the act of homosexuality a
    > > conditional sin, or always sin? The bible forbids murder, but killing men
    > > is not an absolute sin, in the condition of war or self defence it is not
    > > morally wrong. The real question is whether other "sins" like homosexuality
    > > depend on certain conditions. I would not be on the side of advising people
    > > to engage in homosexuality under any condition. Luckily the bible informs
    > > us that God is a fair and righteous judge.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > "You must be fruitful and increase, swarm throughout the earth and rule over
    > it" genesis 9:7.
    >
    > If you were to obey that command "religiously," no conditions apply.
    > Homosexuality would always be a sin. Once you set conditions, your obedience to that
    > command would be conditional and NOT religious, since having sex for the sake
    > of sex does not bear fruit.
    > My argument is not that homosexuals should be killed or ostracized, as is
    > often suggested when I support the religious argument, but simply that it is not
    > a religious behavior... end of story.
    >
    > rich faussette
    >
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------
    > In a message dated 7/6/03 6:16:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    > jbembe@hotmail.com writes:
    >
    > I think this is the core of the question. Is the act of
    > homosexuality a
    > conditional sin, or always sin? The bible forbids murder,
    > but killing men
    > is not an absolute sin, in the condition of war or self
    > defence it is not
    > morally wrong. The real question is whether other "sins"
    > like homosexuality
    > depend on certain conditions. I would not be on the side of
    > advising people
    > to engage in homosexuality under any condition. Luckily the
    > bible informs
    > us that God is a fair and righteous judge.
    >
    > "You must be fruitful and increase, swarm throughout the earth and
    > rule over it" genesis 9:7.
    >
    > If you were to obey that command "religiously," no conditions apply.
    > Homosexuality would always be a sin. Once you set conditions, your
    > obedience to that command would be conditional and NOT religious,
    > since having sex for the sake of sex does not bear fruit.
    > My argument is not that homosexuals should be killed or ostracized, as
    > is often suggested when I support the religious argument, but simply
    > that it is not a religious behavior... end of story.

            If failure to be fruitful & increase is the problem with homosexual activity
    then presumably then it is not sinful for a bisexual person to engage in heterosexual
    intercourse for reproductive purposes and in homosexual behavior for other reasons.

                                                    Shalom,
                                                    George

    George L. Murphy
    gmurphy@raex.com
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/



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