Re: Sin?

From: RFaussette@aol.com
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 20:50:22 EDT

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    In a message dated 7/7/03 8:05:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gmurphy@raex.com
    writes:

    > If failure to be fruitful & increase is the problem with homosexual
    > activity
    > then presumably then it is not sinful for a bisexual person to engage in
    > heterosexual
    > intercourse for reproductive purposes and in homosexual behavior for other
    > reasons.
    >
    > Shalom,
    > George
    >
    >
    >

    I didn't say it was a problem - I said it wasn't religion - you can dice it
    any way you want - it's simply not religion and to make established religions
    conform to prohibited sexual practices is simply not religious. And you are
    missing a significant portion of the argument. I didn't choose that quote
    carelessly.

    "You must be fruitful and increase, swarm throughout the earth and rule over
    it"
    Genesis 9:7.

    dinosaurs no longer "rule"... they are extinct - failed to be fruitful and
    multiply. since religion embraces perfection, absolutely perfect life-giving
    communal behaviors cannot include behaviors that compromise reproduction - if
    they're only 85% effective at advancing reproduction, they're not religion. 100%
    or nothing is the religious goal, not attainable by the common man to be sure,
    but a worthy goal nevertheless and a truly religious one. You don't reform
    religion by moving away from the absolute - you discipline yourself to religion,
    you don't discipline religion to your "self."

    Didn't you ever hear of the story of the orthodox couple who have sex through
    a hole in the sheet? It's not about prudery. It's about intense self denial
    in pursuit of something greater.

    Now that may seem an esoteric concern, but ''christian" american birth rates
    are at an all time low while immigration is at an all time high, purportedly
    to replace our shrunken numbers. Let's look at a religious group that observes
    those Levitical prohibitions. The ultra orthodox in Israel control the
    Israeli government which holds the entire world hostage over those illegal orthodox
    settlements in Palestine. Those ultra orthodox groups also have the highest
    birth rates in the world. They know their religion. The Levitical prohibitions
    exist in a religious matrix that provides population increase, high cohesion
    among that population and with numbers and superior cohesion, population
    hegemony (rule). To whatever degree you abandon the Levitical prohibitions, you
    abandon population increase, cohesion and rule.

    rich faussette



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