Re: Natural theology?

From: george murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Mon May 21 2001 - 17:06:29 EDT

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    "Terry M. Gray" wrote:
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    > How about if we turn this discussion toward the more apologetic and
    > theological bent (where perhaps more people can participate intelligently)
    > and ask whether a natuiral theology is Biblical and what role natural
    > theology should play in our apologetics.

        Independent natural theology (i.e., that which is developed without reference
    to revelation) is 1) biblically marginal, and 2) dangerous.
            1) There are biblical passages which suggest some validity for such a
    natural theology - e.g., Ps.19:1-6 & Acts 14:15-18. Even Karl Barth admitted
    this. But as he said - & I agree - this is something quite different from
    validation of natural theology as a proper introduction to specifically Christian
    theology. The note of natural theology in these passages is relativized in one
    way or another. In Ps.19 it is attached to staements about torah which is
    "perfect" &c. Acts 14 presents natural theology as a kind of emergency
    apologetic tactic.
            Romans 1:18-32 is _not_ a validation of natural theology. Paul speaks
    about evidence which _should_ lead to a knowledge of God from creation, but he
    says that the sinful condition of humanity is shown precisely by the fact that
    people misinterpret this evidence and construct idols. N.B. - the problem as
    Paul describes it is _not_ that people are atheists but that they mislead
    themselves with their natural theologies! & when Paul is finished speaking about
    the problem of sin he doesn't try to develop a correct natural theology but
    speaks about what God has done in Christ (3:21-31).
            2) Even if some theoretical validity is granted to independent natural
    theology as a preparation for the gospel, it is a very dangerous enterprise.
            a. All too often people have thought that a natural knowledge of God is
    sufficient, and that revelation is ultimately unnecessary. That's the whole
    Enlightenment project of natural religion & finds plenty of adherents in modern
    science-religion discussions. (E.g., Paul Davies' "Science offers a surer path
    to God than religion.”)
            b. The philosophical presuppositions which go into natural theology get
    carried over into theology based upon revelation and compromise it. Christian
    theology has been bedevilled by the assumptions that God cannot suffer, be
    involved with death, or experience any kind of change, and that God is perfectly
    "simple". These make the fundamental Christian beliefs in divine Incarnation and
    the Trinity into puzzles to be solved rather than answers to fundamental
    problems.

            I have been speaking to this point about _independent_ natural theology -
    i.e., one which is based on a supposed natural knowledge of God which is
    independent of revelation. It is quite another matter to start from revelation
    and then look at the natural world in light of that revaltion (i.e., Christ) in
    order better to understand God's activity in the world. That is a quite
    legitimate and IMO even necessary enterprise. This corresponds to what Barbour &
    others call a "theology of nature".
            & this is perhaps what Lucy in a parallel post means when she says "if
    one accepts God as the creator of all things, then one can accept natural
    processes (gravity, evolution, starvation, birth, death, and so on) as having
    God's "seal of approval." The word "if" is key. We have to accept God as
    creator on the basis of revelation - we don't get it from science.
            But we can go beyond simply recognizing that God is active in natural
    processes, & can learn - or at least have reinforced - something about the divine
    character. E.g., the fact that we can understand the world so well at one level
    without reference to God strongly suggests that God is not the kind of deity who
    insists on "leaving his fingerprints all over the evidence". This reinforces
    what we're told in, e.g., Is.45:15 & Phil.2:5-11.

    Shalom,

    George

    George L. Murphy
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
    "The Science-Theology Dialogue"



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