Re: verification of flood issues.

From: Dick Fischer (dickfischer@earthlink.net)
Date: Mon Jan 22 2001 - 23:19:58 EST

  • Next message: David F Siemens: "Re: Creation Ex Nihilo"

    Glenn wrote:

    > God interacted at
    >Babel to alter language. But there is no evidence of that between 3000-2000
    >years BC. The origin of language families is long before 3000-2000 BC.

    I don't belive the tower builders spoke anything but Accadian before and
    after their experience at Babel (Babylon). Both Canaanites and Hittites
    continued to write in dialected forms of ancient Hebrew. The Babel incident
    had a temporary effect, in my estimation.

    >One parting shot, since you took one at me about listening--Yeah, I listen
    >more than you. You still have that silly idea that water in the mesopotamian
    >flood can flow up hill carrying the ark from sealevel up to 3000+ feet in
    >elevation or that the ark can be poled, with all those animals and weight,
    >by only 8 people against the natural downhill flow of water (3+ mph) which
    >would exert such a force on the boat that you hypothesis would fail. I would
    >like to see you do an experiment with 8 people to see if this is possible. I
    >have yet to see you provide any calculations of the energy requirements of
    >such a feat of poling the ark uphill at least 3000 feet in elevation against
    >a flow of water which wouuld have been strong enough to wash everything
    >away!

    I once worked for a guy who was fond of "sucker bets." One of his favorites
    was he would bet you he could push a quarter through his ring. You could
    examine both and see that the quarter was too big to slide through the ring.
    So if you took the bet, he would place the quarter on a table, put the ring on
    his index finger, and gingerly push the quarter with his finger. Hmmm ...

    I think some of the descriptions of incidents in the OT, like Joshua's long
    day or the dial of Ahaz, would have been understandable if we could have
    witnessed the events with our own eyes. I don't think the sun stood still or
    that the earth was suddenly thrown into reverse. But also, I don't know how
    David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear on one of his magic
    shows. If I had been in a helicopter, my guess is I could have figured it out.

    >Have you ever listened on this point? If so, I don't recall you ever saying
    >anything about it.

    Okay, I'll say something about it.

    What's that expression about "time and tides"? The duration is important.
    A continuous flood of over a year in Iraq would be hard to sustain in the
    Summer and Fall. Yet two rainy Spring seasons with a period of relatively
    dry weather in between would leave ample time for Noah and his crew to pole
    up the Tigris. Anyway, 3000 feet of elevation in about one hundred miles
    doesn't strike me as a very steep grade. Also, a Sumerian crew would have
    been helpful - and, being non-Semitic (or non-Adamic) , they don't count
    as part of the eight :>).

    Dick Fischer - The Origins Solution - www.orisol.com
    "The answer we should have known about 150 years ago."



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Mon Jan 22 2001 - 23:12:05 EST