LOL at Howard's invitation to Paul to join Howard's club!
I've seen Paul and Howard go at it, trying to get the other to admit which
"theistic club" they are a member of in BIOLOGY AND PHILOSOPHY.
I was tempted to point out the same thing as Howard below,
but decided to reply in a different way instead.
Ed Babinski
"Howard J. Van Till" <hvantill@novagate.com>@inia.cls.org on 10/02/2000
03:41:45 PM
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To: Paul Nelson <pnelson2@ix.netcom.com>, FMAJ1019@aol.com,
welsberr@inia.cls.org, evochat@inia.cls.org, evolution@calvin.edu
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Subject: Re: CSI, GAs, etc.
Paul, you have radically changed your position. Great! What I see below is
consistent with my concept of a universe fully gifted by its Creator with a
robust formational economy so that it has all of the requisite capabilities
to actualize the whole array of life forms that have appeared in the course
of earth history--without occasional episodes of form-imposing
intervention.
Welcome to my RFEP club!! I'll have your membership card sent ASAP.
Howard Van Till
> Here's a thought experiment.
>
> We find a wall with a little door in it. Occasionally, that door opens,
> and small complex artifacts emerge. Maybe these are sonnets, or
> pencils, or integrated circuits, or plaster busts of Mozart -- whatever.
>
> So eventually our curiosity gets the better of us, and we carefully
> cut an opening in the wall to discover what's behind it.
>
> In that room, we find a large machine. On analysis, we find that
> the machine is programmed to produce sonnets, pencils, integrated
> circuits, and busts of Mozart, as well as thousands of other artifacts.
> The machine then opens the door in the wall and deposits these
> artifacts in the outside world.
>
> Gosh, we say -- no more problem of the origin of CSI! Obviously,
> a mindless algorithm is outputting CSI, namely, this machine here.
>
> And we got off to have a beer, happy that we've solved the
> puzzle of CSI. CSI is only "apparent," because it's being produced
> by a large machine.
>
> ;-)
>
> OK, that's *really* my last post in this thread (although I still
> owe Wes a reply on natural selection).
>
> Paul Nelson
> Senior Fellow
> The Discovery Institute
> www.discovery.org/crsc
>
>
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