Re: Conspiracies and party lines

Jim Bell (70672.1241@CompuServe.COM)
30 Dec 96 19:10:15 EST

Glenn writes:

<<I might say that is the treatment I received at the hands of the YECs when I
dissented from their party line. A journal that had published lots of my
articles when I was a YEC now will not touch them. John Woodmorappe calls me
lots of names. Henry Morris has condemned me in the same sentence with Davis
Young. Robert Brown's review of my book made it sound as if I had never been a
YEC. I think this party line business is a two way street.>>

Yes, both the evolution and anti-evolution crowd have their orthodoxies. I
agree with you! (Shall we stop the presses? Notify the media? Tappa Kegga
Brew?)

However, the Evolutionist Party is much larger, much more united, much more
powerful in the culture. ANY challenge, be it from YECs or biochemists like
Behe, and they tar their critics with the same brush (e.g., Nature mag calling
Behe a fundamentalist apologist). They hold the power, too, in the academy and
in the journals. And when was the last time the ACLU represented ICR?

Your quote from Johnson was off the mark. He writes as a critic, not a Priest.
He has no power to ship anyone anywhere. (I have visited his criminal law
class, and he does have SOME power over the future Johnnie Cochran's of the
world)

<<Yes I did begin life as an aquatic mammal. I was enclosed in my mother's
amniotic sac which was filled with water.>>

A not-so-clever change of topic here. We were talking fish stories, not
mammalian reproduction. Caught ya (hook, line and stinker)!

<<You forget that there are fish who can do what you say is impossible. In
recent years Florida was plagued (maybe still is) by an African import, the
walking catfish. I guess that fish, which is able to walk from pond to pond
has not heard that you say this is impossble. Some one should inform him of
this fact. You can't cause you are in California. If some one is listening
from Florida would you please tell those catfish to quit coming onto dry land.
Jim says it is impossible for them to do this.>>

Yes, I would love an expert opinion on this. We'll need a structural analysis,
of course, and complete anatomical and behavioral specs. We'll have to hear
just what this "walking" consists of, too. Is it in the same league as
"flying" as in the "flying fish"? This may just be another one of your fish
stories.

<<Gee, this horrible party didn't crush Taylor for his dissent? I thought you
said dissenters 'are shipped to the academic equivalent of Siberia.' Taylor
got his book published. The party must be getting soft.>>

Taylor died just before the book was published. He couldn't be shipped off
anywhere except the bone orchard. The Party could conveniently ignore him (and
it apparently has. I've not seen his arguments addressed by Gould, Dawkins or
any other high Party official).

Jim