Re: Response to Weekend Posts

Jim Foley (jimf@vangelis.ncrmicro.ncr.com)
Mon, 4 Dec 95 12:48:41 MST

>>>>> On Mon, 4 Dec 1995 07:40:53 -0800 (PST), vandewat@seas.ucla.edu
>>>>> said:

>> In this same vein, Jim Foley said I have to "give evolutionists
>> credit for intelligence". But my distrust of the evolutionary
>> community has nothing to do with intelligence, rather it has to do
>> with intellectual integrity. When I began to study evolution a year
>> and a half ago (I am still very new at this.) I found that
>> evolutionists had lied to me. They had lied to me in class, they had
>> lied to me on television, they had lied to me in books and magazines,
>> they had even lied to me in my kindergarten readers. (See Jack run.
>> See Jill jump. See Danny the Dinosaur evolve into a bird.)

When you studied evolution, were you using, for example, ICR literature?
(Learning about evolution from the ICR is like learning about
Christianity from Madalyn Murray O'Hair.) Could you give an example of
one of these lies? And did you look at any evolutionary literature to
verify them?

(Actually, I said "some intelligence". The reason why I am confident
that Cro-Magnons are Homo sapiens sapiens is that scientists have a
history of *exaggerating* the differences between fossils, not of
minimizing them.)

>> All I did was point out that according to YOUR proposition (that
>> scientific ideas are a response to problems of current theories with
>> empirical evidence), the falsification of the multiregional
>> hypothesis left the "Out of Africa" theory with unsolved problems.
>> Jim Foley has helpfully pointed out that you were wrong.

I did?? I found Glenn's statement quite reasonable. I was really
expressing reservations about your statement that "Out of Africa" has
unsolved problems; most anthropologists consider its problems, if any,
to be minimal. The general opinion seems to be that the multi-regional
approach has far more severe problems.

-- Jim Foley                         Symbios Logic, Fort Collins, COJim.Foley@symbios.com                        (303) 223-5100 x9765  I've got a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call  it a weasel.      -- Edmund Blackadder