RE: Trouble with Adam and Eve

From: Glenn Morton (glenn.morton@btinternet.com)
Date: Sat Apr 27 2002 - 14:14:22 EDT

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    What I have seen on the population of the ancient earth is sparse, and
    fraught with assumptions. Here is what I have at my finger tips:

    "Homo sapiens assumed an essentially modern form at least 50,000
    years before he managed to do anything about improving his means
    of production. Of the estimated 150 billion men who have ever
    lived on earth, over 60 per cent have lived as hunters and
    gatherers; about 35 per cent have lived by agriculture and the
    remaining few per cent have lived in industrial societies.
            "To date, the hunting way of life has been the most
    successful and persistent adaptation man has eveer achieved." ~
    Richard B. Lee and Irven Devore, "Problems in the Study of Hunters
    and Gatherers," in Richard B. Lee and Irven Devore, Man the
    Hunter, (New York: Aldine de Gruyter, 1968), pp. 3-12, p. 3

    And there is the fascinating article by Carl Haub in which he assumes that
    humanity began with 2 peopld 50,000 years ago and calculates the numbers who
    have ever lived based upon birth rates required to allow the species to
    live. For most of human history it was in the area of 80 births per 1000.

    "Starting with 2 humans in 50,000 BC Carl Haub calculated that
    105,472,380,169 people had been born up until 1995. The world population at
    that time was 5,780,000,000 which means that 5.5% of all people ever born
    are alive today.
    Carl Haub, ìHow Many People Have Ever Lived on Earth?î Population Today,
    Feb. 1995, p. 4-5

    He says that the world population in 8000 BC was about 5 million. Now, he
    starts at 50,000 years ago and anatomically modern man has been on earth for
    120,000 years, so his numbers are a bit low. And then there is the issue of
    whether or not to count the previous hominids which would increase the
    number substantially.

            "Throughout the Paleolithic, population numbers remained
    small, leaving greater chance for random genetic drift to produce
    considerable diversification. Population size of a continental
    or subcontinental area at the beginning of expansion may have
    been on the order of 50,000-100,000 individuals."
      L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paoli Menozzi and Alberto Piazzi, The History and
    Geography of Human Genes, (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1994), p.
    156

    "If the population density of England was intermediate with
    respect to that of Europe, which was practically uninhabited in
    more northern regions and probably more densely populated in more
    southern ones, then the late pre-Neolithic population of Europe
    was 200,000 to 700,000. With the transition to agriculture, the
    population density rose to 1-5 inhabitants per km2." ~ L. Luca
    Cavalli-Sforza, Paoli Menozzi and Alberto Piazzi, The History and
    Geography of Human Genes, (Princeton: Princeton University Press, p. 262

            "McEvedy and Jones gave the following European population
    estimates:

    3000 B.C. more than 2 million
    2000 B.C. 5 million
    1000 B.C. 10 million
    A.D. 200 28-36 million
    A.D. 1000 36 million
    A.D. 1300 79 million
    A.D. 1500 81 million
    A.D. 1900 390 million"
      ~ L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paoli Menozzi and Alberto Piazzi, The
    History and Geography of Human Genes, (Princeton: Princeton
    University Press, 1994), p. 262

    glenn

    see http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/dmd.htm
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