Terry wrote, in part: "I know that it is politically incorrect to say what
I'm about to say, but I will say it."
Count me as one person who welcomes "politically incorrect" dialog.
"I suspect that most people in the ASA and on this list do regard
Christian Science to be an unorthodox cult."
I would probably temper that somewhat, although I don't know a lot about CS.
I'd observe that they are certainly unorthodox -- in the same way as process
theologians and the advocates of "open theism." Yeah -- I'd include Roman
Catholics in that classification too. And I have close friends, and several
family members who are, thus, "unorthodox." I certainly do not "read any of
them out of the Christian family."
"The ASA statement of faith is very "big-tent" and points to the
Apostles' and Nicene creed as fundamental statements of orthodoxy as
being accurate statements of the teaching of scripture. These are the
classic Christian creeds defining the Trinity and the Incarnation. In
general, we do not regard as Christians those who disagree with these
doctrines (part of what it means to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord
and Savior is to agree with the teachings of these creeds)."
Hmm. When you say "we" in the above, do you mean to speak for all in the
ASA? I personally have no problems with the recitation of the Apostle's
Creed as part of my own church service; I say it because I hold it to be
confessionally accurate. Can't speak to the Nicene because I'm not up to
speed on it. But I think that Rudolf Bultman did not agree with these
creeds; and certainly was not orthodox; but I've read his stuff closely; w/o
agreeing with his position I am personally not able to label him as "not a
Christian."
"I speak as an ASA member who is zealous to maintain the "evangelical"
integrity of our group and our discussions."
The word "evangelical" in there bothers me, I guess. I'm probably not an
"evangelical," although I suppose it must turn on one's understanding of
that word. I do know that from time to time I review the ASA statement of
faith and have never seen anything there which suggests I am nor eligible. I
have a very close friend of 40+ years who is a Catholic priest; I would see
no reason he would not equally be eligible. But perhaps others see this
differently.
Thanks for the comments, Terry. And I see this discussion as proper for the
LISTSERV. It speaks to foundational issues, after all.
Hoss (aka Burgy)
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