Re: Current Events

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. (dfsiemensjr@juno.com)
Date: Mon Apr 01 2002 - 15:53:50 EST

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    Gordon,
    Thanks for the correction.
    Dave

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 08:44:56 -0700 (MST) gordon brown
    <gbrown@euclid.Colorado.EDU> writes:
    >
    >
    > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, D. F. Siemens, Jr. wrote (quoting Howard?):
    >
    > > On this last, I suspect that Augustine's wisecrack in answer to
    > the
    > > question what God was doing before he created: "He was making hell
    > for
    > > those who ask such questions." I note that there is a relevant
    > difference
    > > between a timeless deity and one temporally eternal. The latter,
    > which
    > > panentheism demands, involves an infinite regress or sorts. The
    > former
    > > does not. I think Aristotle's eternal pair of Pure Form and Prime
    > Matter
    > > make better sense than the process view.
    >
    >
    > It seems that this story has gotten twisted. Augustine's answer was
    > based
    > on his assertion that God created time, and he dissociated himself
    > from
    > those who would give a facetious answer. Here is a quotation from
    > Book XI
    > of The Confessions of Saint Augustine:
    >
    > See, I answer him that asketh, "What did God before He made heaven
    > and
    > earth?" I answer not as one is said to have done merrily (eluding
    > the
    > pressure of the question), "He was preparing hell (saith he) for
    > pryers
    > into mysteries." It is one thing to answer enquiries, another to
    > make
    > sport of enquirers.
    >
    > Gordon Brown
    > Department of Mathematics
    > University of Colorado
    > Boulder, CO 80309-0395
    >
    >
    >



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