Re: YEC

From: T. Elliott Eckhardt (SpamFilter@BizTaxPros.com)
Date: Mon Mar 18 2002 - 10:18:06 EST

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    Thanks, Jonathan,

    I'll have to look into Harold Clark and Ariel Roth, although generally I try
    to distance myself from a lot of SDA teachings.

    I do enjoy reading Morris and Rimmer, though then again I like some Carl
    Sagan and Stephen Hawking, too.

    Troy
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jonathan Clarke" <jdac@alphalink.com.au>
    To: <SpamFilter@BizTaxPros.com>
    Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:46 AM
    Subject: Re: YEC

    > Could not resist this one.
    >
    > Hi Troy
    >
    > It sounds like your church, even though it is a KJV Baptist one, is
    following a
    > line that can be traced directly back to the Adventist Harold Clark.
    Clark
    > also believed, as do some current SDAs such as Ariel Roth, that the earth
    and
    > universe are old, but that life and the geological strata are young. I
    don't
    > know how to label this position, but it is certainly not that of the
    historic
    > Baptist churches, nor is it strict YEC in the style of Henry Morris.
    Perhaps
    > "Old earth young geology creationists" (OEGEC)?
    >
    > Jon
    >
    > Troy Elliott Eckhardt wrote:
    >
    > > I attend an independent KJV baptist church. We really don't have an
    > > official statement about what type of creationists were are. I know
    that
    > > neither the pastor nor I are theistic evolutionists. Personally, I do
    not
    > > believe that the universe and the earth are only 10,000 years old, as
    many
    > > young Earth creationists believe. I draw this conclusion not only from
    the
    > > works of current cosmologists, but from the belief that the stones of
    fire
    > > upon which angels walked were the Earth, their abode from which they
    were
    > > outcast. I am also intrigued by God's commandment to Adam and Eve to
    > > REplenish the Earth, and by the statement that the Earth was void and
    > > without form, perhaps from a divinely induced catastrophe.
    > >
    > > I do believe that the Earth AS WE KNOW IT, that is, the geological
    > > formations and the species here, including Man, are young, possibly only
    a
    > > few thousand years old.
    > >
    > > Now is that what you'd call young Earth creationism, or at least some
    minor
    > > departure from it?
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Jim Eisele" <jeisele@starpower.net>
    > > To: <asa@calvin.edu>
    > > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 8:04 AM
    > > Subject: YEC
    > >
    > > > Walt Hicks asked about my YEC church. Another prominent
    > > > ASAer attended this church (at least at one time).
    > > >
    > > > I don't go to Sunday service. From my small group, I
    > > > hear that the current position of my church is that the
    > > > earth is young. God just made it to look old.
    > > >
    > > > Jim
    >



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