Response to: What does the Creation lack?

From: Peter Ruest (pruest@pop.mysunrise.ch)
Date: Wed Nov 14 2001 - 11:13:18 EST

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    Norm Woodward wrote:

    >But the question I was addressing in the post to which you responded was,
     Is God the "agent responsible" for causing each one of these events to
    occur at some specific location and time? There is a theological
    tradition
    that appears set on ascribing to God both the power and desire to be in
    absolute CONTROL of each event, one by one. In the context of that view
    of
    God, it would appear that God was the "agent responsible" for choosing
    to
    cause the Lisbon earthquake and the death of Darwin's daughter. It's
    that
    picture of a micromanaging and controlling divine agency to which Darwin
    was, I believe, reacting with revulsion. (...)<

    PR: I believe God is omnipotent, and therefore capable of "micromanaging
    and controlling" everything - wherever and whenever he wants to. As far
    as "natural" processes are concerned, I think he "drew with a broad
    brush", in the sense of giving the general procedures (our "natural
    laws") and stochastically distributed initial conditions. But he cares
    about all details when the creatures are concerned to whom he gave free
    will are concerned. With them, of course, he will not manage or force
    the decisions he leaves them. But for each one of them, he will provide
    many selections in cases where "naturally" many different outcomes are
    possible.

    The cases which cause us difficulties, like the Lisbon earthquake or
    Darwin's daughter, must be "solvable" in some way, although in many
    cases we may not have the full answer - and may never have it: God's
    ways are beyond us. Let's just stick to the few principles we know from
    revelation (combined with science):
    (1) God is sovereign, omnipotent, all-knowing, all-loving;
    (2) God is constantly active as Creator and as Provider;
    (3) God abstains from interfering with some decisions by free-will
    creatures;
    (4) God created stochastic laws, abstaining from micromanaging
    everything;
    (5) God is the agent responsible for all other "natural" processes";
    (6) God sometimes does miracles outside the realm of "natural" events;
    (7) God takes the consequences of sin upon himself on the cross of
    Christ;
    (8) God sometimes hurts those he loves for loving purposes;
    (9) God provides to those accepting Christ a future of unspeakable
    blessing;

    Peter



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