Re: Response to: What does the Creation lack?

From: Howard J. Van Till (hvantill@novagate.com)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 20:22:30 EST

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    Peter,

    After offering a rather lengthy definition of "macroevoution" you say:

    > For the moment, let me call it macroevolution-T, as its
    > defining feature is the transastronomical improbability of such a
    > macroevolution-T step.

    As I have noted before, I sincerely doubt that we know enough about all
    possible pathways (and in the presence of all possible environments) to do a
    numerical evaluation of the probabilities in question. Without those
    numerical values, how would we know if "hidden options" need be exercised?

    > The conventional view of evolution claims that the various known
    > evolutionary mechanisms are fully adequate to account for all of
    > evolution. With this, I disagree: in my opinion they are incapable of
    > successfully producing macroevolution-T. However, for the theological
    > reason given above, this fact must be hidden in "God's hidden options",
    > which are not accessible to scientific investigation. At present, the
    > vast majority of the available evidence suggests that macroevolution-T
    > is an all-pervasive reality.

    See comment above.

    Later you express a rather comprehensive view of God's _responsibility_ for
    what takes place in this world:

    > God is the agent responsible for:
    > (1) all explicitely (in the biblical record) creative acts;
    > (2) all "natural" events and processes (in the Bible often attributed to
    > God);
    > (3) all parameter selections in the realm of "hidden options";
    > (4) all miracles not reducible to "natural" events and processes
    > ("signs").
    > The only exception to God's activity and responsibility is the free will
    > he has given to some of his creatures (humans and angels) - in some
    > circumstances.

    Isn't this the perspective that led Darwin to ask whether God was
    responsible for the Lisbon earthquake (that killed thousands of people,
    including many at worship, as I recall) or the death of his daughter? Are
    you really comfortable with the idea that God is the "responsible agent" for
    all such events? These are examples of events that cannot be ascribed to
    faults in human free will.

    Howard
     



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