Re: More on Gosse's OMPHALOS

From: James_Taggart@multilink.com
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 08:31:55 EST

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    Furthermore, if you want to take the position that seeming randomness that
    is actually guided
    to some purpose is deceptive, that implies that had we known the direction
    of the guidance, then
    the purpose could be understood.

    If you didn't know the rules of chess and you watched the first six moves
    or so of a single game,
    the motions would appear to be near random (not a great example but you get
    my intent). Since
    we can not know God's thoughts, it's hubris to believe that with 'just a
    little more information,'
    we could figure out God's purpose. God wrote his salvation plan down in
    the Old Testament,
    but even Jesus' disciples couldn't figure out what He was doing until after
    the resurrection.

    David F Siemens <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>@udomo3.calvin.edu on 02/14/2001
    09:18:38 PM

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    Subject: Re: More on Gosse's OMPHALOS

    Gordon,
    I found your response most interesting. Nothing that I know about is more
    rigorously determined than the decimal value of pi, yet I understand that
    the sequence passes all known tests for randomness. It looks as though we
    cannot tell the difference between random and determinate sequences
    without knowing how they were arrived at. If this observation expresses a
    valid principle, then what we take to be a series of random events may be
    determined by "forces" of which we are not aware. It follows that God
    cannot be lying about "accidents" just because we think we've discovered
    randomness.
    Dave



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